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↑ Raizle

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 5:58 am

B'Syata D'Shmya wrote:

I respect that. A frum supermarket SHOULD close with enough time for their employees to get home to make Shabbos.
I would not respect the store that keeps their staff till half hour before.

If the owner is frum then I'm shocked. I thought you aren't allowed to put yourself in a position that you might run into Shabbos.

↑ B'Syata D'Shmya ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 6:03 am

Raizle wrote:

If the owner is frum then I'm shocked. I thought you aren't allowed to put yourself in a position that you might run into Shabbos.

Me too.

hello3

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 6:44 am

Op, I’m with you. I’d be furious.
To all of those validating the boss, on paper you are right but as yidden you are 💯 wrong. I’m sure if the boss would ask a shaila, the rav would say not to hold back a worker with three kids from making Shabbos in livable conditions. He’s not asking to cut down 2 hours. He’s asking for 30 min. I’m sorry but it’s selfish and unreasonable. Altogether, I don’t think any Rav would give a heter to keep a store open till 30 min to Shabbos, an hour to two is the norm in all stores I know.
Op I like the idea of moving in the spring and hopefully by September the boss will be more flexible. I just hope he won’t fire him the minute he hears your moving cuz that might happen. He will preempt your husbands request.

wanttobehappy ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 7:27 am

The boss prob tried getting someone for the last hour before Shbbous before and it was a headache each week so he gets why he made these conditions. I hear ur stuck. He should tell his boss that he will be starting to keep other options open. Your life has to be able to move on.

munchkinbaby

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 7:48 am

If those are the hours that he was clearly told before taking the job then the boss is right
The point isn't at all to make up the hours because he needs him then at that specific timing

lavendar310

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 7:52 am

Your husband can find a new job and tell the boss sorry but this doesn't work for me.

Cloud9

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 7:53 am

causemommysaid wrote:

How is a 5 yr contract even enforceable?

It's not enforceable. A contract compelling someone to work against their wishes is equivalent to paid slavery and is not enforceable.

Notsobusy

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 8:01 am

hello3 wrote:

Her husband took the job 8 months ago. He knew the time requirements and he also knew that he had 3 kids in a small apartment and real estate in Brooklyn is crazy expensive. None of this changed since he accepted the job. Of course he can find a new job with better hours. But the boss didn't do anything wrong besides for have him sign a ridiculous contract.

↑ courage2change ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 8:38 am

His boss had another past manager who moved to this other town and he had a bad experience with this other guy so in his head he doesn’t want my husband to move even if the hours work! Banging head

I think his boss could’ve answered my husband more respectfully instead of saying “if you move you’re fired! Also my husband was out of a job for 10 months last year until this job finally fell into his hands. It’s good pay supposedly even though I told my husband for such crazy hours maybe he should be getting even more…. what do people think is a normal salary for such a job?

lamplighter ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 8:58 am

8 months is not very long in a new job. It does sound like crazy hours but you knew this going in. That's probably why the pay is good.
This kind of job brings excellent experience and can be a great stepping stone to even better jobs.
I think he should stick it out longer, get the experience on his resume and then start looking for a job with better hours.

itsokay ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:28 am

courage2change wrote:

My husband took a job 8 months ago as a manger of a store. He works 45 hours a week and must be there till half hour before Shabbos in the winter because it’s a food store so but in the summer two hours before Shabbos. I think working half hour before Shabbos is ridiculous and my husband comes running into the house 20 minutes before the zman.His boss made him signa 5 year contract that he will stay and do these crazy hours. He is getting paid pretty well though.
Prices of houses in Brooklyn are through the roof and we can’t afford them. So Banging head

we were thinking of moving to a nearby town about a half hour drive away. He went to ask his boss if he could renegotiate the hours for Friday but his boss said if you move you’re fired! Crying

His boss told him he should have not brought it up. If he would have known that he was going to move he wouldn’t have hired him!
I’m so mad at his bosses rigidity. Do you understand his boss and does he have a right to hold us back from moving? Banging head

Yes I think his boss is rigid and obnoxious. It would have come across differently if he had said something like, "I hear the problem! If you need to move for sure you should move. I'm just not sure what we'll do because we do need you for the last half hour and I'm not sure how that will work if you move. What do you think?" With the implications being that he might try to replace your husband if he's concerned that he won't be able to keep his hours. But the tone and relationship would be different!

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:33 am

courage2change wrote:

His boss had another past manager who moved to this other town and he had a bad experience with this other guy so in his head he doesn’t want my husband to move even if the hours work! Banging head

It depends on many factors. But it's not a wise thing to make your husbands resent his job.

↑ lamplighter ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:34 am

I don't think a boss is rigid for expecting an employee to show up for the hours that his job is for.
If your cleaning lady was hired for certain hours and then said they couldn't do one of those hours you wouldn't be considered rigid for firing her for not being able to come for the agreed upon hours.
Yes he could have spoken kinder and it could be his crazy expectations of hours is why he's been burned before and reacted so strongly. I agree that the expectation is unreasonable for a frum place but he isn't rigid for expecting the agreed upon hours to be adhered to.

↑ familyfirst ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:35 am

This sounds crazy but would you consider moving and renting a shabbos apartment?

Sounds crazy- but thinking out of the box

Or buy in the new neighborhood and rent it out so that at least you bought before the price of homes went up

↑ courage2change ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:37 am

Yes we were thinking of buying and renting out. His boss said once the 5 years are up we can move and he can leave the job… Even thought technically my husband can leave before then if he wants to…

↑ nicole81

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:37 am

Anyone else kinda curious about what frum area 30 min from Brooklyn is sooo much more affordable?

notshanarishona

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:38 am

A 5 year contract is meaningless, your husband can quit if the hours don’t work for him. Those hours wouldn’t work for 99% of frum people. Unless they are paying a fortune they are unlikely to find a competent replacement. He should play their game and let them try.

↑ courage2change ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:39 am

Problem is we can’t wait 5 years with 3 kids in a two bedroom. What’s if I get pregnant? So solution can be to rent a bigger apartment for more money…

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:39 am

nicole81 wrote:

Anyone else kinda curious about what frum area 30 min from Brooklyn is sooo much more affordable?

Staten Island

↑ courage2change ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:39 am

nicole81 wrote:

Anyone else kinda curious about what frum area 30 min from Brooklyn is sooo much more affordable?

Staten Island

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