This Friday night you’re all about to find out

Molly Weasley ↓

Wed, Jan 08 2025, 5:33 am

amother Seablue wrote:

And I was thinking, based on the thread title and all the Erev Shabbos food threads.
That this Friday night we'll see just how much toameha impacts our appetite.

Those that say that they only eat challah dips, and soup. Are you planning on making a significant main course this week?
Im expecting a lot of hungry people.
(I also have a house full of teenage fasters)

🤷

amother

↑ Indigo

Wed, Jan 08 2025, 5:38 am

mommyhood wrote:

I would expect Megillas Esther to be rushed because everyone is fasting and the zman is later but it still takes forever so I don’t expect this Friday night to be any different than the usual.

Sometimes I do wonder about that. How do you have energy to say it so slowly after fasting all day.

amother

↑ Blue ↓

Wed, Jan 08 2025, 6:07 am

amother Diamond wrote:

Last year was also on a Friday and I had a shabbos sheva bruchos and it was very quick. The men were fasting. I loved it becuase the meal started quickly.
On another note they are just starting to daven earlier than they usually do .

Yes we had a bavarfen.

amother

↑ Blue ↓

Today at 5:19 am

DH plans to be home around 7/730 so not much different than any other Friday night. They are starting to daven at 4:55 instead of 5:30 though so maybe he will be home earlier. There is leining though...

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Today at 5:46 am

amother Blue wrote:

I assume you're not fasting.

And you're satmar 😉

amother

Wisteria ↓

Today at 6:14 am

DH usually stays to learn for an hour after davening, but this week he'll come home right away. I imagine by 5:15.

amother

↑ Wisteria

Today at 6:15 am

amother Blue wrote:

Where does davening start at 5:30 Friday night? You can't even daven mincha then anymore.... DH (and other shuls) is done davening by 5:30.

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Today at 6:34 am

amother Wisteria wrote:

Where does davening start at 5:30 Friday night? You can't even daven mincha then anymore.... DH (and other shuls) is done davening by 5:30.

It's based on a few things
1) Mincha after shkia - because shabbos starts - and ends much latter

2) There's a minhag to wait, and not make kiddush between 6-7 pm

Combined, the men come home at about 7.

Btw, most don't follow this minhag in even minor extenuating circumstances, such as restless guests, minor medical needs, or if people are fasting.

amother

Silver ↓

Today at 6:38 am

mommyhood wrote:

I would expect Megillas Esther to be rushed because everyone is fasting and the zman is later but it still takes forever so I don’t expect this Friday night to be any different than the usual.

What are you talking about??

amother

Darkblue

Today at 7:14 am

I suggested to my husband to take some cookies to shul but he thinks he will be home before the fast is even out.

(our shul is pretty quick - they daven mincha and maariv straight away)

amother

Quince

Today at 7:20 am

amother Silver wrote:

What are you talking about??

She is comparing this situation to Purim night. Megilla is leined right after taanis esther straight after maariv so no one broke their fast yet. And still they dont rush thru megilla.

amother

Turquoise

Today at 7:21 am

Molly Weasley wrote:

Many people have the minhag not to make kiddush between 6-7 and still daven before 5:30, and many men choos to come home and wait till 7 in their own dining rooms.

We're Viznitz so I guess we are makpid to daven mincha before the shkiya, davening usually starts 10 minutes after the zman. We also hold that one can make kiddush between 6-7 if he says Av Harachamim first.

amother

Garnet

Today at 7:29 am

My father will never make kiddush between 6 and 7, even fasting, etc. He'll make sure to be home before 6.

DH does make kiddush between 6 and 7 but will definitely be home earlier, not because they'll daven faster but because usually there's a shiur after maariv which DH and DSs stay for, and I don't mind. I imagine that this week there won't be a shiur, or if there is, they will not stay for it.

honeymoon

Today at 9:32 am

amother Daphne wrote:

So was four years ago- it's weird how frequent they've been lately.

But it won't happen again for another 20 something years iirc

amother

Vanilla

Today at 9:38 am

amother Darkblue wrote:

I suggested to my husband to take some cookies to shul but he thinks he will be home before the fast is even out.

(our shul is pretty quick - they daven mincha and maariv straight away)

Don’t you have to wait until you hear kiddush to eat?

I was wondering if everyone would want to jump straight into the meal or have coffee and muffins first.

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Today at 9:59 am

amother Quince wrote:

She is comparing this situation to Purim night. Megilla is leined right after taanis esther straight after maariv so no one broke their fast yet. And still they dont rush thru megilla.

It's a very silly comparison

Megillah has to be read after nightfall, marrive doesn't.

Also, there's a specific need to understand every word written in the megillah, which is why it's usually said at a slow pace

amother

↑ Silver

Today at 10:03 am

Molly Weasley wrote:

The Chiyuv is to hear every word, not to understand

amother

↑ Blue ↓

Today at 10:07 am

amother Wisteria wrote:

Where does davening start at 5:30 Friday night? You can't even daven mincha then anymore.... DH (and other shuls) is done davening by 5:30.

My husband's shul starts mincha an hour and 10 minutes after the zman every week. Most shuls in the area start 30-45 minutes after, but a few start like dh's. In the morning he's always home by 11:30 though so it evens out.

amother

↑ Blue

Today at 10:08 am

Molly Weasley wrote:

I assume you're not fasting.

And you're satmar 😉

I am fasting and yes we are satmar. If I'm really hungry I'll make kiddish before dh comes home.