I found hashem's love!!!

amother

↑ Lightcyan ↓

Mon, Dec 30 2024, 6:32 pm

amother Wisteria wrote:

As much as you thank Hashem for the gifts you have, it doesn’t take away the pain. When someone has a broken leg, it doesn’t matter if the rest of the body is healthy. The pain takes over the entire function of the body. Same when you have an enormous nisayon. Yes, we have loads and loads of good in other areas, but it doesn’t take away the pain in the area that is lacking.

I agree with this but I also think it's wrong to connect "things" or "gifts" with love.

If we love hashem because of the things he gives us then it would mean the more he gives the more we love him. The less he gives, the less we love him. That's not real love. We love our children and babies even if they don't give us anything. We love our siblings who might not give us anything- we just love them.

amother

↑ Crocus

Mon, Dec 30 2024, 6:37 pm

amother Lightcyan wrote:

The logical side of my brain wonders (pretty often) if that is merely a coping mechanism. To say that hashem is infinite and has no limits couldn't have a better plan than to cause some people suffering, and that suffering is really somehow perfect for them, their neshama, and their journey seems very farfetched.

It seems to me to be a complete blind faith illogical belief that helps people feel better about things.

Life is painful, we are in galus.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t suffer in this galus.
Unfortunately we grow through pain
Just remember that the Shechina is in galus and is experiencing much more exponential pain that we can even imagine

↑ #BestBubby

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 2:35 am

amother Lightcyan wrote:

I hear that. I'm certainly grateful for what I have. But I'm not sure it translates into loving hashem if I'm being honest. To my human mind I have no idea why I was born when I was and not in Nazi Germany as so many others were 100 years ago. What did I do to be spared? What did they do to not be spared? It all seems random to us.

Why did hashem make some of us healthy and others sick? I think I'd say I'm scared of hashem since I don't know what makes him decide this way or that way.

Do you understand how Hashem created the universe out of nothing?

So why do you presume that you can understand Hashems decisions?

B'Syata D'Shmya

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 2:44 am

amother OP wrote:

Me too, but those small messages can sometimes be a sliver of love.
Just today something hurtful happened on top of all that I already have and I just cried to hashem and asked please let me know what you want from me, I don't understand.
After that, I logged into daily dose app and scrolled down and came across a short video about someone that had challenge after challenge, everything and everyone was taken from him. He stopped and told hashem, there is one thing you cannot take away from me, and that is my love to you.
To me this was a message from hashem that he wants my pure pure love to him, so I'll be working on this now and hope not to disappoint him.

Please know and remember, He loves you even when you cant feel it.
Like a child who is sent to bed, when the child feels its not fair, his parents certainly love him.

↑ tweety1

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 7:54 am

amother Wisteria wrote:

I need a yeshua in a few areas. One specific area is much more urgent and I have been putting all of my focus on that. All of the sudden I get a yeshua in the other area that I wasn’t focusing on. For example (not what is going on in my life ) I’m looking to move into a new house but I don’t have the money. It’s really urgent for my kids emotional stability. I cry beg and plea hashem should send me a yeshua. All of the sudden my kid gets into the camp we were hoping to get into. So yes hashem sent me a yeshua or a message in one area but a total hester panim in the other.

My thoughts exactly.

amother

Maroon

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 8:17 am

I have been going through a significant challenge (bh bh lately coming out of it)
At first I was so angry at Hashem.
And once while learning with friends I came to realization that I can love Hashem even if I don’t like what he is doing. Same as I love my children even when I don’t like their behavior.

It felt like a huge release and such a powerful feeling.

To the poster who said that the broken foot overwhelms the feeling of positivity for the rest of the healthy body, I think that’s human nature. But it’s an avoda to focus on the good. And it does make one happier and also a healthier place to be in.

amother

↑ Lightcyan ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 8:21 am

#BestBubby wrote:

Do you understand how Hashem created the universe out of nothing?

So why do you presume that you can understand Hashems decisions?

Right, and this is why it's hard for me to describe my feelings about hashem with "love".

Hashem is so far above us. He runs the world in ways that are beyond our comprehension. To our human minds (which he gave us) his actions seem at best random and at worst cruel. I fear hashem because I see the pain he causes to really good people. I (and everyone else) don't have the slightest understanding why he's doing this or what will make it stop. To us it truly seems random. So I fear hashem and I think everyone should.

amother

↑ Lightcyan ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:15 am

amother Maroon wrote:

I've thought about this concept a great deal. Only focus on hashem's good. Pretend that we see and understand that hashem is all loving and kind and push away the obvious contradictions to this. But I find it's a struggle and I also realize I'm fooling myself. I think it's undeniable that as humans we don't see hashem as the ultimate in loving and kindness.

I remember many years ago watching a show (maybe 2010 or so) where they were interviewing parents who had a son in the world trade center on 9-11. His body was never recovered and he was presumed dead. His parents were insisting that they have "a feeling" that he's alive. They figure that he was injured, maybe had a head injury, suffered from amnesia and wondered away forgetting who he is and where his family lives.

No doubt this gave his parents comfort. They unreasonably believe that their son is alive all these years later. But if they were honest with themselves they would acknowledge that it's not so. But to avoid that pain they only think positively.

And I think many of us do the same. Of course we can focus on the good. Bh there's plenty of that. But to say that we understand how hashem is good while he gives cancer to babies is not really honest in my opinion.

PinkFridge

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:26 am

tweety1 wrote:

Are you me?? Begging for so long for a yeshua in a certain area. This week he sent me a strong message "I didn't forget you" but I'm still struggling. I can't not see him with this message. His message was clear as day but why am I so stuck? Where is my emunah?? I feel like a total failure.

Many gedolim, most famously Rav Hutner, zt"l, have spoken about yemei ahavah and yemei sinah. Your feelings are normal. We're in a stage of galus where we spend a lot of time feeling stuck and in ruts. We're not bad people, just trying, often trying our best.

↑ Molly Weasley ↓

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 9:59 am

amother Lightcyan wrote:

We have an obligation to both love and fear Hashem. We have to love Him with all our might.

It seems like your struggle may be rooted in not fully appreciating your own existence, and recognizing that everything good in your life - including your ability to think, love, and your health - is a gift from Hashem.

It might help to focus on seeking out the good in your life and learning to appreciate it more.

amother

↑ Lightcyan

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 10:38 am

Molly Weasley wrote:

Love is an emotion or a feeling. It's not something that we do. We can can tell someone to do or not do something. We should do chessed and give tzedakah. We should not eat on Yom Kippur or do melacha on shabbos.

I can't force you to truly and honestly love something. It's not possible. If I told you I would pay you a million dollars but you have to love.....pistachio ice cream, or love dogs, or love to travel, or love a certain person you don't know, you wouldn't be able to. It's not real love.

↑ Molly Weasley

Tue, Dec 31 2024, 4:48 pm

amother Lightcyan wrote:

Love grows from the appreciation. If you don't contemplate and appreciate what Hashem does, you're not going to love Him

We have an obligation to look for ways to love Hashem.