Gefen Paprika is way more RED than others, is it natural?

amother

Cognac ↓

Sat, Dec 21 2024, 6:33 pm

Elfrida wrote:

In Israel you can't buy raisins or dried cranberries for Pesach with a mehadrin Ashkenazi hashgacha. They're very lightly coated in (I think) cottonseed oil, to stop them sticking together, and that's considered kitniyot. You can buy them imported, with an OU hashgacha.

Same reason you can't buy mayonnaise. Gefen mayonnaise, made in the US amd kosher l'Pesach in the US, is marked not kosher l'Pesach in Israel because cortonseed oil is considered kitniyot in Israel but is not in the US. But that's not a matter of ratio.

amother

Daisy

Sat, Dec 21 2024, 7:08 pm

amother Mintgreen wrote:

It absolutely 1,000% is true unfortunately.

My daughter is on a very strict diet for her health, and it is a well known fact by thousands of people on the facebook group for this diet, that store bought foods made in Israel or Europe are much easier, because their laws require every ingredient be listed, as opposed to USA laws, that allow ingredients under a certain percent, as well as anything considered a "processing aide" not to be listed on the label.

If we buy any American made food, we need to first query the food company for confirmation that theres nothing added to the food but not listed on the label, to be safe.

2 examples I myself experienced personally:

1) Bare apple chips list only "apples" as the ingredient, or "apples and cinnamon". When I inquired from the company, the first rep said it was only what was listed on the label, but when I pressed further about "any processing aides", she went to ask someone else and came back, sounding surprised, saying that "actually it turns out we also use sunflower oil as a processing aide". So really, the ingredients are apples and sunflower oil-and in Europe it would be listed as such.
I once told this story over (it may have been here, actually) and someone responded that she couldnt believe it, she is allergic to sunflower and kept getting allergic reactions and not knowing why, because she hadnt eaten sunflower-BUT she ate lots of Bare apple chips. There's her answer.

2) people on this diet know to be extra careful with honey, because even "100% pure" honey can have small percents of added ingredients, and especially common is corn syrup.
So in trying to avoid calling companies, I thought I would be clever, and I called the OU to ask, being that they really know whats in everything, if they can recommend a honey that has nothing added to it -the rep said he cant because he legally signed a contract or whatever, that he is bound to secrecy, so he cant tell me which companies have added corn syrup and which dont. But he did confirm that I was correct in my understanding, and he said he can think of a few companies off hand that the OU certifies, that are "100 % pure honey" and actually have corn syrup thats not listed.
SO I thought I would be extra smart and asked if I could assume all pesachdik honey is free from corn syrup and he said actually no, because the amount present can sometimes be considered batel, in terms of kitniyos.

So yeah.
Take it from someone who knows and deals with this aggravation daily...ingredient labels mean nothing.

(Can someone push RFK to change this?...)

Crazy. So I have two questions. Why do some companies bother listing their oil then? (Knowing they don’t have to and more healthy ppl will buy it if it “doesn’t have”).
And also for gluten free, do we have to call every gf product and confirm the truth or are laws different cuz that’s tiresome?

amother

↑ Mintgreen

Sun, Dec 22 2024, 9:35 am

amother Daisy wrote:

I dont know why some companies list everything and others dont. I guess they like being transparent.

And as anothe poster mentioned, only the top allergens are mandated to be written down, no matter the amount-like wheat, milk, nuts...

But if you are allergic to anything else, as so many are, well then poor you

amother

Banana

Sun, Dec 22 2024, 9:43 am

amother Daisy wrote:

The rule specifies, among other criteria, that any foods that carry the label “gluten-free,” “no gluten,” “free of gluten,” or “without gluten” must contain less than 20 parts per million (ppm) of gluten. This level is the lowest that can be reliably detected in foods using scientifically validated analytical methods.

This is the criteria if a brand wants to put a certification label on their food that it's gluten free. If it has more than the above, they won't list it as gluten free, you'll just be assuming it from the ingredient list.

amother

Brown

Sun, Dec 22 2024, 11:35 am

amother Mintgreen wrote:

Im on the SCD diet and we are all aware of this, can’t just go by labels only if verified by the manufacturer

↑ Elfrida

Sun, Dec 22 2024, 12:27 pm

tweety1 wrote:

Kitniyot doesn't have to do with country. Where are you getting this info from? It has to do alot with community and even more so individuals. We don't eat mayonnaise but some in my community do.

It has to do with the kashrut authorities in different countries.

The Badatz Eidah Chareidi in Israel does not permit mei kitniyot (fluids, normally oil, derived from kitniyot).
In America, the OU does permit their use as an ingredient.

That means that products, like mayonnaise, which normally have both an OU and a Bedatz hashgacha may have an OUP, but next to the Bedatz will be printed that it is not authorised for use on Pesach.

Of course, it is up to each individual to decide which psak they follow.