More of Israeli home nuances

↑ essie14 ↓

Yesterday at 2:57 pm

Elfrida wrote:

Is there any way to set electric trissim to adjust themselves on Shabbos, or are they locked in position? If you forget to open/close them, are they just stuck, or then they be put on a manual setting?

We have them on timers.

↑ essie14 ↓

Yesterday at 2:58 pm

Bnei Berak 10 wrote:

The gas hot water are supposed to be great! Is the cost of use reasonable?

Our gas bill obviously went up but showering and washing dishes with a large family is just impossible without it.
Quality of life is 100% worth it.

amother

Mimosa ↓

Yesterday at 2:59 pm

amother Brass wrote:

I don’t have a picture but basically they build up with cement the outer edges of the porch until chair height about a foot thick . Put a slab of tile or something similar on it. Then on the outer part of that put gate going up the rest of the height. So you can sit in that slab and don’t need as many chairs. Also great for little kids to sit and see the street below without going out

Googled and found a picture. But newer ones have a wider seat and much higher gate for safety.

https://I.imgur.com/yjQXB5K.jpeg

I think these type of walls are dangerous for small kids who climb on them and can fall down. They are quite high.

amother

↑ Brass

Yesterday at 3:02 pm

amother Mimosa wrote:

I think these type of walls are dangerous for small kids who climb on them and can fall down. They are quite high.

They are chair height so just as dangerous as chairs. You don’t get rid of chairs when you have little kids. This is the same thing

amother

↑ Bubblegum ↓

Yesterday at 3:04 pm

amother Mimosa wrote:

I think these type of walls are dangerous for small kids who climb on them and can fall down. They are quite high.

The railing around the walls with a ledge on the inside must be at least a certain height to prevent kids from climbing over ch"v.

amother

↑ Bubblegum ↓

Yesterday at 3:07 pm

Elfrida wrote:

All apartments I've been in with electric trissim have only had it in the living room, going out to the mirpeset. There is a manual crank that you can attach on shabbos and manually turn the trissim that way.

↑ Bnei Berak 10

Yesterday at 3:21 pm

essie14 wrote:

Our gas bill obviously went up but showering and washing dishes with a large family is just impossible without it.
Quality of life is 100% worth it.

You still have a dud shemesh?

↑ essie14 ↓

Yesterday at 3:27 pm

Bnei Berak 10 wrote:

You still have a dud shemesh?

Yes. When the sun heats the water we get hot water that way. The gas only kicks in when there's no water left from the solar dud. We don't use the dud chashmal anymore.

↑ shabbatiscoming

Yesterday at 11:24 pm

joonabug wrote:

have you been to america? I have literally never seen a closet there that isnt its own room. when I say room I dont mean its necessarily a walk in closet I mean that there is a door and its a new room, even if its tiny and you cant fit in, its not like a closet that you need to install in our actual bedroom. do you understand what I mean?

Oh, then of course I know what you mean. But its not its own room, just a space in edroom thars already a closet.
And I grew up in america Smile

logical

Today at 2:06 am

amother Salmon wrote:

Just remembered another brilliant practical thing they have in Israel. They build a cabinet door with vents, for fruits and vegetables that don't need refrigeration.

It's not standard like the other things OP mentioned. I wish my new build rental had a special cupboard for potatoes!

↑ essie14

Today at 2:24 am

logical wrote:

It's not standard like the other things OP mentioned. I wish my new build rental had a special cupboard for potatoes!

I put it in when I designed my kitchen. It's so helpful. But, correct, it's not standard.

water_bear88 ↓

Today at 2:25 am

shabbatiscoming wrote:

Oh, then of course I know what you mean. But its not its own room, just a space in edroom thars already a closet.
And I grew up in america Smile

I find Israelis like plastered cinderblock internal walls rather than קירות גבס (not positive on the exact translation, but plaster without concrete). Presumably this is because the thicker walls offer greater noise reduction.

But I remember the house we lived in when I was a kid, and based on where all the closets were, I think they muffled sounds because it wasn't just plaster between my parents' room and mine, it was closet doors-closet contents-plaster, with my closet and theirs side by side but opening into two different rooms. You get more storage in the same space, with no less noise dampening.

amother

↑ Bubblegum ↓

Today at 2:37 am

water_bear88 wrote:

I think the concrete and cinderblock walls have multiple advantages over the wood/sheetrock walls: sturdier, less risk of fire spreading, heat insulation (keeps house cooler all year round in a warm climate), noise insulation, and my favorite - less change of mice eating into you house and living in your walls.

etky

Today at 2:37 am

shabbatiscoming wrote:

OP wrote:

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Why the impossible to maneuver trissim?

Been here almost 22 years. Lived in many places. Had one place that had a bad tris. Otherwise they were great.
You can get trisim fixed.

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The top floor less cabinet with dish drainer kills a storage cabinet for me as I use disposables.

[b]Most homes today dont even have those. When we bought we didnt put them in. Its a thing of the (mostly) past.[/b]

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Many apartments I stayed in needs Sun for hot water. On a cloudy day if you forget to manually turn on the hot water boiler you have to wait to have hot water.

Put a timer for your dude. Weve lived in msny rentals before we bought. We always asked the lamdlord if wr could do that. Never had an isue with hot water.

They're called אלמגוב. You'd be surprised how many people still opt to install one, especially those who grew up with one and are used to it. It's a love it or hate it feature. Personally I hate them, feel that they're a waste of storage space, find them impractical for my drying needs, and I hate how the water drips down your arm when you try to place a wet utensil up high.

amother

Bluebell

Today at 2:38 am

We don't have built in closets in the UK either (except in v large wealthy homes)

Personally I love the Israeli style apartments with their simple, pared down look. When I lived there it was so much easier to live with less, the stone floors and shayish was easier to look clean than carpets and curtains and drapes and it was just a simpler set up.

Things like milk in bags with a milk jug and no shower edges, just a sloping floor and drain, the 'sofabed' and covered in mirperset bedrooms.

And the dud shemesh which basically gives free hot water for months is so amazing compared to paying for every inch of hot water coming out the tap.

That was in yerushalayim in v old style buildings. The luxury ones I see advertised in the magazines are definitely built for American style living which feels like a loss to me.

I guess I am romaticising it as it was a simpler time of life for me but every time I go back to visit friends and siblings who still live in these dirot I feel how much unnecessary belongings I have and how much easier it would be to live with just a bit less.

↑ water_bear88 ↓

Today at 2:45 am

amother Bubblegum wrote:

That last one is a good point, true. I'm happy with the cinderblock walls between my apartment and my neighbor's, but if I ever have cause to renovate I think I'd prefer built-in closets between bedrooms.