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jycar
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:30 am
Is there a real thing that once you touch your shoes you have to wash your hands every time? Two of my kids are refusing to wait to put there shoes on before they leave the house( I don't like shoes in the house especially boots) because then there's no sink nearby to wash
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singleagain
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:43 am
I've never heard of this.
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jycar
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:44 am
Pls I hope more ppl chime in lol
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singleagain
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:47 am
jycar wrote: | Pls I hope more ppl chime in lol |
You first posted your thread less than 15 minutes ago. It takes time for a thread to gain traction.
I'm confused as to what you mean by this? Are you somehow disappointed in my answer?
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jycar
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:48 am
singleagain wrote: | You first posted your thread less than 15 minutes ago. It takes time for a thread to gain traction.
I'm confused as to what you mean by this? Are you somehow disappointed in my answer? |
No absolutely not !!! Thank you I just want more people to answer hopefully I'm not demanding I just need some validation
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singleagain
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:51 am
jycar wrote: | No absolutely not !!! Thank you I just want more people to answer hopefully I'm not demanding I just need some validation |
No not demanding, I was just confused bc there didn't seem to be any connection between what I said and what you posted after, especially as you quoted my post and I just couldn't see anything connecting them.
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milliemom
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 7:58 am
You’re saying like wash negel vaaser?
You would need to before you daven if you touch your shoes
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asmileaday
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:05 am
Yes I grew up like this.
They also holds that if you enter the bathroom to just get something, even if you don't use it, you need to wash your hands.
I don't follow any of this, it's very extreme.
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asmileaday
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:06 am
milliemom wrote: | You’re saying like wash negel vaaser?
You would need to before you daven if you touch your shoes |
Could be this is where this mishegas originates from and they took it a step further, wash your hands at time you touch it even if you're not davening. I don't know.
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Molly Weasley
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:07 am
asmileaday wrote: | Could be this is where this mishegas originates from and they took it a step further, wash your hands at time you touch it even if you're not davening. I don't know. |
It's not a mishegas. Why would you want to be in a position not to be able to daven?
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Molly Weasley
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:14 am
asmileaday wrote: | Yes I grew up like this.
They also holds that if you enter the bathroom to just get something, even if you don't use it, you need to wash your hands.
I don't follow any of this, it's very extreme. |
There is an halachic argument if today's bathrooms are considered lavatories according to halacha.
If it is, then even entering just to get something would necessitate hand washing.
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lovingmommy3417
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:16 am
I always heard if you touch the bottom of shoes, but we don't hold by this. I would ask your rav.
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chassidisheveib
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:23 am
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Molly Weasley
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:24 am
Found the kitzuer
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אֵלּוּ דְבָרִים צְרִיכִין נְטִילַת יָדַיִם בַּמַּיִם, הַקָּם מִן הַמִּטָּה, וְהַיּוֹצֵא מִבֵּית הַכִּסֵּא, וּמִבֵּית הַמֶּרְחָץ, וְהַנּוֹטֵל צִפָּרְנָיו, וְהַמְגַלֵּחַ שַׂעֲרוֹתָיו, וְהַחוֹלֵץ מִנְעָלָיו, וְהַמְשַׁמֵּשׁ מִטָּתוֹ, וְהַנּוֹגֵעַ בְּכִנָּה, וְהַמַּפְלֶה אֶת בְּגָדָיו אֲפִלּוּ לֹא נָגַע בְּכִנָּה, וְהַחוֹפֵף רֹאשׁוֹ, וְהַנּוֹגֵעַ בְּגוּפוֹ בִּמְקוֹמוֹת הַמְּכֻסִּים, וְהַיּוֹצֵא מִבֵּית הַקְּבָרוֹת, וְהַמְלַוֶּה אֶת הַמֵּת אוֹ שֶׁנִּכְנַס בְּאֹהֶל הַמֵּת, וְהַמַּקִּיז דָּם (סִימָן ד').
https://outorah.org/p/114264/
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anonmommy4
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:24 am
Constantly all day then I need to wash. If I put on my shoes yo leave the house and I’m gonna want to say tehillim on the road I have to wash. Then I put on DDs shoes oh wash again. Fix DDs shoe in the car now I’m stuck, can’t daven. How does that work
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Molly Weasley
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 8:27 am
anonmommy4 wrote: | Constantly all day then I need to wash. If I put on my shoes yo leave the house and I’m gonna want to say tehillim on the road I have to wash. Then I put on DDs shoes oh wash again. Fix DDs shoe in the car now I’m stuck, can’t daven. How does that work |
You can wipe your hands on material, it's good enough until you have water
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Hello99
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 9:51 am
My father is very makpud on tumah. He taught us to wash our hands after touching shoes, going into the bathroom, touching erva like your upper arm, scratching your head etc
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chick567
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 9:55 am
yes it's a real thing to wash your hands after touching shoes and before davening.
when my dh leaves the house to daven, he puts on his shoes then washes his hands at the outdoor hose, then goes to shul to daven.
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BadTichelDay
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:05 am
Hello99 wrote: | My father is very makpud on tumah. He taught us to wash our hands after touching shoes, going into the bathroom, touching erva like your upper arm, scratching your head etc |
Y'know, I always thought of myself as DL and pretty chilled, but I also was taught this. Always thought it's kind of halacha and not a chumrah. I was told that washing under a tap is enough, no need to pour from a kli.
I really do wash my hands after touching any shoes or any part of the body that's normally covered by clothes (but not after simply entering the bathroom). Even if that means washing like 10 extra times during the day when getting the kids off in the morning etc.
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animeme
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Wed, Dec 11 2024, 10:06 am
If they touch their shoes and don't wash, they have to wash before going into davening. This may be inconvenient for them. If they are going to have a snack on the way to school, or water, they need to wash before the bracha. Also, if younplay music in the car, there are varying opinions about listening to music that is from Torah and davening (real question for before saying Birkas HaTorah too), and singing it.
Where is the closest sink? Also, do you know if your dh hold one should wash immediately?
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