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amother
Honeydew
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 Mon, Dec 09 2024, 2:41 pm
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Medical billing $140k. 8 years experience. Reimbursed for travel but no benefits
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 3:18 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | No.
Never studied or sat for the CPA because the jobs being offered it wasn't necessary.
Maybe one day. |
How did he get to be controller after working 2 years?
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 3:26 pm
| amother Peach wrote: | | Is this really the lowest anyone is making in Lakewood? |
My husband makes way less! He's a mashgiach so zero benefits, crazy hours and zero stability. He has a lot of experience and is extremely appreciated at his job. he likes the job but salary wise and working conditions, it's really bad! (I was going to write "the worst" but then corrected myself, bh he has a job, sometimes, bh holy work but not very appreciated in the regular population!)
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 3:36 pm
| amother Coral wrote: | | How did he get to be controller after working 2 years? |
My husband just started as a controller, 110k, no benefits, basically 1 year of relevant experience.
Honestly he was kind of surprised when he got the offer, but the company seemed a little desperate.
He's studying for the CPA
Crazy hours though
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 3:37 pm
| amother Rose wrote: | | My husband makes way less! He's a mashgiach so zero benefits, crazy hours and zero stability. He has a lot of experience and is extremely appreciated at his job. he likes the job but salary wise and working conditions, it's really bad! (I was going to write "the worst" but then corrected myself, bh he has a job, sometimes, bh holy work but not very appreciated in the regular population!) |
Is it a very difficult job? Does it require any sort of education or training?
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:33 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | Im the amother whose husband was recently promoted to Controller for 105k plus some transportation and benefits.
A poster commented fyi that Controllers make more in Lakewood.
My experience is that a lot of people say that but lmaysa at the interviews and offers it's not really true.
He had 2 interviews for similar jobs, 1 threw around 100k with benefits, 1 threw around 120k no benefits.
We're talking beginning Controller.
Im realizing that many posters are over inflated salary assumptions. |
Curious if this is in Lakewood or somewhere else ?
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:35 pm
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | Im the amother whose husband was recently promoted to Controller for 105k plus some transportation and benefits.
A poster commented fyi that Controllers make more in Lakewood.
My experience is that a lot of people say that but lmaysa at the interviews and offers it's not really true.
He had 2 interviews for similar jobs, 1 threw around 100k with benefits, 1 threw around 120k no benefits.
We're talking beginning Controller.
Im realizing that many posters are over inflated salary assumptions. |
And I agree,
Salary assumptions in general are overinflated. I find that the best paying careers vs experience vs hours put in, are the newlywed girls in Lakewood doing medical billing that get hired straight out of seminary with no degree or work experience for 65k, get 6 months training, and 5 years in are making 6 figures and working 25 hours per week total or less.
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:37 pm
| amother Yarrow wrote: | My husband just started as a controller, 110k, no benefits, basically 1 year of relevant experience.
Honestly he was kind of surprised when he got the offer, but the company seemed a little desperate.
He's studying for the CPA
Crazy hours though |
Is this in the Tristate area or OOT?
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:08 am
Lakewood adjacent.
45 minute commute from Lakewood.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:11 am
| amother Lemonchiffon wrote: | And I agree,
Salary assumptions in general are overinflated. I find that the best paying careers vs experience vs hours put in, are the newlywed girls in Lakewood doing medical billing that get hired straight out of seminary with no degree or work experience for 65k, get 6 months training, and 5 years in are making 6 figures and working 25 hours per week total or less. |
This is not my reality or a lot of others
Not sure if you were being sarcastic
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:16 am
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These numbers are high. My husband has a decade of experience in his field and makes less than 45k at one job and was laid off from his seasonal job where he made over 100k. after taxes though it was so little and if he goes to kollel and we get onto benefits we would be far more comfortable but my rav doesnt allow.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:17 am
| amother Foxglove wrote: | | These numbers are high. My husband has a decade of experience in his field and makes less than 45k at one job and was laid off from his seasonal job where he made over 100k. after taxes though it was so little and if he goes to kollel and we get onto benefits we would be far more comfortable but my rav doesnt allow. |
In Lakewood?
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:24 am
| amother Foxglove wrote: | | These numbers are high. My husband has a decade of experience in his field and makes less than 45k at one job and was laid off from his seasonal job where he made over 100k. after taxes though it was so little and if he goes to kollel and we get onto benefits we would be far more comfortable but my rav doesnt allow. |
Pardon me for asking but why does your rav need to “allow”?
I’m
Not saying it’s smart to not have a job but if you’re struggling and would bring home more money and be able to better support your family if you switch careers…. Why would you need permission?
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:29 am
| amother Mustard wrote: | This is not my reality or a lot of others
Not sure if you were being sarcastic |
It’s a lot of people’s reality though not everyone.
Not being sarcastic whatsoever.
People who started out in medical billing 8+ years ago are absolutely making 6 figures by now in A LOT of cases, and they work kollel schedule hours.
I don’t work in Lakewood so I don’t make this kind of $ but my sisters, cousins, friends do.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:35 am
| amother Lemonchiffon wrote: | It’s a lot of people’s reality though not everyone.
Not being sarcastic whatsoever.
People who started out in medical billing 8+ years ago are absolutely making 6 figures by now in A LOT of cases, and they work kollel schedule hours.
I don’t work in Lakewood so I don’t make this kind of $ but my sisters, cousins, friends do. |
No not really.
I agree that girls start off insanely high. But first of all, things are slowing down and the progression is not as high.
Also, the reason these offices hire women is because stereotypically by 5 years in, they cut their hours to 9:30-3 or something.
Meaning year 1 9-5 50k
Year 2 9-5 65k
Year 3 9-5 75k
Year 4 9-4 75k
Year 5 9:30-3 78k
Year 6 9:30-3 82k
Men cost more (stereotypically) because they're not going to cut their hours. So even a modest 5k raise a year keeps raising and raising and raising.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:42 am
| amother Stoneblue wrote: | No not really.
I agree that girls start off insanely high. But first of all, things are slowing down and the progression is not as high.
Also, the reason these offices hire women is because stereotypically by 5 years in, they cut their hours to 9:30-3 or something.
Meaning year 1 9-5 50k
Year 2 9-5 65k
Year 3 9-5 75k
Year 4 9-4 75k
Year 5 9:30-3 78k
Year 6 9:30-3 82k
Men cost more (stereotypically) because they're not going to cut their hours. So even a modest 5k raise a year keeps raising and raising and raising. |
??? I don't really understand this. If men would work more hours, they would get more work done, no? So I would think it's the part time women who cost more, bot the men? Because they're paying them more for less hours worked/work done.
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amother
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Tue, Dec 10 2024, 8:49 am
| amother Navy wrote: | | ??? I don't really understand this. If men would work more hours, they would get more work done, no? So I would think it's the part time women who cost more, bot the men? Because they're paying them more for less hours worked/work done. |
I agree with you.
But the companies don't
I don't understand why they hire girls like crazy, pay them insane salaries, knowing that they WILL cut their hours within a few years, rather than hire men straight out of yeshiva knowing that men won't cut their hours and will be ok working until 2 on Friday in the winter and 4 or 5 in the summer, etc.
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amother
Eggplant
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Yesterday at 8:13 pm
| amother Honeydew wrote: | | Medical billing $140k. 8 years experience. Reimbursed for travel but no benefits |
Is this in a management role?
How big is the company?
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