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amother
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 Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:21 pm
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A very frum family can’t make a living. Husband is a rebbe. Wife doesn’t work because she has too many kids to take care of. They keep having more kids. They can’t pay their bills. What is the long term plan? To just live off of every program and collect money for everything? Their son got engaged, he wants to learn forever. How will they pay their bills? How does this make sense?
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:25 pm
Govt help?
Programs and family support lots of families live like this…
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:26 pm
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:44 pm
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:45 pm
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So none of us should get married or have children because the housing market is too high, food cost too much, tuition is expensive.....
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NeonPink
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:53 pm
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We need Rebbes, teachers etc. They work very, very hard. I wish there was a way for them to be paid better....
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:54 pm
| amother Lightgray wrote: | | So none of us should get married or have children because the housing market is too high, food cost too much, tuition is expensive..... |
This and yes mind your own business.
Hashem put the kollel life in the world and it’s a deep meaningful lifestyle if you don’t get it ….
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:56 pm
Maybe tomorrow her DH will get a promotion? Or the federal tuition vouchers will finally become a reality?
I have a DD in high school that I can't afford to pay for. Of her own volition, she is tutoring multiple girls every day for free. For certain tests, everyone in the dorm knows to go to her for help studying. She volunteers on Sundays to work with special needs children.
Is she a drain on society or is she benefiting society?
People are not just a financial equation.
Would you really prefer that her husband stops working successfully as a rebbe, and an unskilled young man comes in and wreaks havoc in the classroom? Do we really want to push all teachers out of the workforce in the name of responsibility?
And long-term plans are not foolproof either. Imagine she was wealthy and had her double digit family, then her husband lost his job and their savings were wiped out in a year. Why is it somehow more palatable to pay tuition for someone who used to be rich than for someone who was always poor?
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:56 pm
| amother Dustypink wrote: | This and yes mind your own business.
Hashem put the kollel life in the world and it’s a deep meaningful lifestyle if you don’t get it …. |
But the husband is not in kollel. He's a Rebbe. For all you know he's your son's Rebbe...
What is YOUR long term plan for the people who teach your children?
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groovy1224
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 4:57 pm
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It doesn't make sense to me either but they're not asking me my opinion and presumably not yours either so what's the point of even speculating? Who's it helping?
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NechaMom
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:16 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | A very frum family can’t make a living. Husband is a rebbe. Wife doesn’t work because she has too many kids to take care of. They keep having more kids. They can’t pay their bills. What is the long term plan? To just live off of every program and collect money for everything? Their son got engaged, he wants to learn forever. How will they pay their bills? How does this make sense? |
I think the husband should find a higher paying job and you should homeschool your boys.
Also, no Rebbe should have more than two kids and their engaged sons should definitely not plan on learning.
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:23 pm
My husband and I are both teachers. My husband in a Yeshiva, 7 days a week, giving his heart and soul. I give my best to my students too.
What's our long term plan?! How will we take care of and marry off our own kids?
I don't know. When we were young and idealistic and naive we felt this was our calling. Still do, but it's tough.
I wish teachers would be supported in a way that it could be an ideal and practical parnosah long term.
For now we rely on miracles -and B"H there have been many! And generous gifts from appreciative parents that have no idea how their gifts literally save us.
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lamplighter
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:28 pm
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Why is this your business? Are they asking you?
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Whitesmoke
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:34 pm
I think it's every tax-payer's business.
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Jean
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:36 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | A very frum family can’t make a living. Husband is a rebbe. Wife doesn’t work because she has too many kids to take care of. They keep having more kids. They can’t pay their bills. What is the long term plan? To just live off of every program and collect money for everything? Their son got engaged, he wants to learn forever. How will they pay their bills? How does this make sense? |
It's amazing how wortied you are for some anonymous frum family that you decided to belittle them on here.
I can think of so many other ways for you to care for them other then trying to make their cheshbonos or yenta about them...
When you're ready, I'll give you a whole list.
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luckiestmom
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:52 pm
You know what? I'm glad my tax money is going to a hard working rebbe rather than to save endangered species in the Pacific Ocean. You will not pay less taxes if there are less rebbes on government programs, trust me.
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 6:01 pm
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You should be more concerned about a system that doesn't pay a living wage and expects people to work multiple jobs just to get by. This is way beyond a frum teaching salary, it's a crisis across the western world
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amother
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 6:10 pm
| amother OP wrote: | | A very frum family can’t make a living. Husband is a rebbe. Wife doesn’t work because she has too many kids to take care of. They keep having more kids. They can’t pay their bills. What is the long term plan? To just live off of every program and collect money for everything? Their son got engaged, he wants to learn forever. How will they pay their bills? How does this make sense? |
Stop whatever you’re doing and immediately report them to your local FBI field office. How dare they have more kids than OP has approved for them! And they have not asked OP’s permission prior to collecting government benefits? The nerve.
Signed, the wife of a Rebbe who puts in countless unpaid hours and works three additional side hustles to provide for his family. But it’s all worth it when I see posts like yours that remind me how appreciated we are.
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Mon, Dec 09 2024, 6:44 pm
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Don’t worry OP. The third generation, (maybe even the second one with some of the children), will self correct. Kids or grandkids will be exhausted of poverty and deprivation and will hustle from the moment that they can to make money.
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