Spoiler alert - FF lie of the land

↑ PinkFridge ↓

Sun, Dec 08 2024, 10:14 pm

amother Aqua wrote:

I’ve been thinking the same for a while. His mother doesn’t sound the type to have chosen a dil from that kind of home. I think they met and fell in love, on a bus, on a train, at an airport, on line at the supermarket or delivering tomchei Shabbos. I wonder if we’ll get the details.

Maybe he was older.

amother

↑ Burntblack

Sun, Dec 08 2024, 10:18 pm

amother Aqua wrote:

But they "knew" he was avigdor kohen. As kids they always went to visit avigdors mother, why should they question anything? Sounds like the cohens were a well known family. I am wondering why their mothers family wasn't in their life though

amother

↑ Carnation ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 5:45 am

amother Burntblack wrote:

The only way anything makes sense is if Avigor went away for a while and came back with these 2 kids for the community to believe they are really his kids.

But wouldn't Avigor have had a chasuna? With people from the community, even if it was in another city? Did "Avigdor" just return home one day with 2 kids and everyone went with it? And no one was able to recognize that it wasn't him? He couldn't have been that old when the kids were young.

Maybe I'm messing up on the timeline - someone help me here - were Moish and Avigdor from Bearwood or Lenape Falls? If Bearwood, it makes more sense. And then they moved to LF when they were young, and they didn't really know people. ok. But what about the Cohens? Where did they love? No one in LF knows the Cohens?

I'm still stuck on them not getting more info at Bearwood. Why'd they give up so fast? There's no one to call, no older Rav, no high school principal? Both Avigdor and Moish, who were in a regular high school class, no classmates remember them? They see who was in their year. Give them a call!

I hope the author has some good stuff coming to make this all make sense.

amother

↑ Hunter ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 8:58 am

amother Bellflower wrote:

Also is the story taking place in the 80s ? We can all google info today not just a special detective , like we can google school staff and phone number etc why do they have to travel to bear wood not just pick a phone and make some
Calls?

Well, the story is taking place nowadays. Rivi and Gabe were born in the early 90s I believe. So Moish and Avigdor were probably in Yeshiva in the 80s

Mama Bear ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 9:25 am

Hey chevra! I was alerted to this thread by a member of my Readers Nook whatsapp group. We're massive fans of LIe of the Land, and all other serials in frum magazines. If you're on whatsapp and not yet in our group send me a PM with your whatsapp # so I can add you! Women only. Now I'm gonna read the whole thread :-D

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 9:41 am

iyar wrote:

It’s not a joke at all.
You can see the author weaving the plot and characters into a story she mapped out carefully, but the halachic details are the one thing that might not get lots of attention.
There was an odd scene when Gabe was sitting shiva. His brother in law, Rivi’s husband, offered to get ten men together so he’d have minyan. Gabe said something like don’t worry he’s used to not having minyan from his years in the jungle. I don’t remember the conversation exactly but the reason I still remember some of it was that it seemed so off. There are lots of men who aren’t particular about davening with minyan three times a day, not a great thing but not unheard of. During shiva for a father his son says Kaddish. That’s a completely different situation. Even a man who never davens with minyan will say Kaddish during shiva and will appreciate someone making that possible. He won’t say thanks that’s so nice of you but you don’t have to bother, as if you offered to bring over a cake.
There are men who won’t take a job where they can’t daven with minyan, but the author might not want to have all her characters be unblemished tzaddikim. Saying Kaddish during shiva is different. It’s something you’ll find in unobservant homes where the men saying Kaddish need help with the words because they can’t read from a siddur.
It’s fiction and it kills it if we over analyze it as if it was real life. What I’m saying is I agree with Hunter that the kohen issue is a very big problem, but for her fictional story the author might not want to get herself hung up on halachic details.

I'm late to th party, but I think Gabe was only marginally observant while he was wandering the jungles, and we see him becoming more connected in the serial as time goes on.

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 9:50 am

strawberry cola wrote:

Hey, what you said about Martin makes me wonder- do you think Martin is Moish? Do the ages match?

Youre making think that Martin is Moish Reichman, the 3rd of the trio. Maybe he was also involved in the disappearance of the stone. But why is he apparently not religious? So maybe he's just plain old Martin. and he's involved in this story.

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 9:50 am

amother Carnation wrote:

They don't want to make waves. They don't want to alert all of Bearwood that there was a case of mistaken identity all these years. THeyre trying to do research without involving others.

↑ Mama Bear ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 9:52 am

I'd like to add, before I close this thread, that Lie of the Land is my absolutely favorite serial. Not only is the plot super engaging, it's so well written, every word is a treat. It's riveting. It's a book I'd buy.

Another thing though, I have to do a lot of suspending beliefs in order to enjoy it, bc it's hard to imagine/believe that in frumville USA, someone can hide their identity and no one finds it out.

amother

↑ Hunter

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 10:47 am

Mama Bear wrote:

Ooh! Good thought. Martin is probably Moish Reichman. Do we know Martin's last name?

↑ iyar ↓

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:00 am

amother Lightpink wrote:

Is the choshen stone somehow part of the mystery??

Definitely.
If this wasn’t Mishpacha magazine, I’d be waiting for Harrison Ford to fly in in his hat, wipe out the bad guys hiding in the basement making scary noises, and rescue the stone. As it is Rivi will have to save herself with the gun her father taught her how to use.
We don’t have frum superheroes, but a staple of our stories is the akeres habayis who can eliminate enemies and whip up a gourmet six course seuda for twenty, all while nursing twins and bringing in a seven figure salary.

↑ iyar

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:03 am

Mama Bear wrote:

Loved that Mama Bear. Happy you joined us!
I don’t know about Frumville, but on my block it couldn’t happen.

Living Princess

Mon, Dec 09 2024, 11:19 am

Mama Bear wrote:

Do you know the author?