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#BestBubby
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Today at 9:59 am
I bet the posters who say don't judge the baby's mother,
Judge mothers who discipline more strictly than you, do sleep training, etc.
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Today at 10:00 am
amother cornflower wrote: |
And yes your kid can get traumatized from being forced to wear a coat. |
This is such a perfect example of our times
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amother
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Today at 10:00 am
#BestBubby wrote: | I bet the posters who say don't judge the baby's mother,
Judge mothers who discipline more strictly than you, do sleep training, etc. |
Huh? Why do you assume we judge? That’s judgmental in itself 🤔
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#BestBubby
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Today at 10:05 am
amother Poppy wrote: | Huh? Why do you assume we judge? That’s judgmental in itself 🤔 |
Based on my observation that the people who parrot the "don't judge" leftist mantra are the same people who label others "Nazis" "Hitler" "genocide".
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amother
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Today at 10:28 am
chestnut wrote: | For anyone saying 30s isn't terribly cold, were you outside today yet in NYC and I'm guessing in NJ is the same? I was walking, dressed warm, and still felt cold |
Not too cold to go from a heated building into a heated car without a coat. The whole incident op witnessed probably lasted under 5 minutes, possibly less.
I think we all belong to 1 of 2 camps. Those who can tolerate a few minutes of cold just fine & those who wear a scarf as soon as the weather dips below 60
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amother
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Today at 10:42 am
amother Poppy wrote: | No actually, some people just don’t mind the cold. Some people prefer the cold to the bulk of a coat. Some people enjoy the thrill of the cold. DS 7, doesn’t wear a coat. Ever. We live where it gets freezing. He owns a coat. I’m not a neglectful mother. He just doesn’t want to wear it. He can make his own choices. Being cold for 10 minutes doesn’t make you sick. |
A black and white statement that it's wrong to tell children to wear a coat because they know their own bodies is very misguided.
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amother
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Today at 11:07 am
amother Eggshell wrote: | I think over bundling for the cold is a Jewish thing.
There’s a typical stereotype that Jewish mothers always think their kids are cold or hungry. |
That's me in a nutshell.
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amother
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Today at 11:20 am
amother Holly wrote: | I apologize in advance fornwhat I'm going to say. It's not like me but this is getting under my skin. I've noticed a trend with the op. Multiple threads started with extreme judgements on scenarios she's seen in which mothers aren't mothering correctly according to her opinions. They go on for pages and nothing anyone says can change her mind thay maybe the parent wasn't actually abusing/neglecting thier child.
It's ok to have not perfect parenting moments. It's usually ok to let kids have autonomy of their bodies even they make mistakes sometimes. Mistakes help people learn for the next time that something should be done differently.
In this case, in Lakewood yesterday it was 39 degrees, yes cold but also not so terrible to not be bundled up to your ears every moment spent outdoors.
Thanks for listening to my rant. I hope people are able to see scenarios without so much judgement even if it's not fathomable how it can be so. | [quote]
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amother
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Today at 11:30 am
[quote="amother Heather"] Quote: |
This.
I’ve noticed this trend too with this op and it really gets under my skin. Cheiny you have a lot of wisdom about many things including what contributes to an emotionally healthy marriage however I’ve noticed this subtle better than though attitude throughout your posts |
This is so inappropriate. You have some constructive mussar you want to say to op private message her. Or at least post under your screenname. Im sure there are a lot more posters who have consistent themes but they post anonymously. This poster is brave to post under her screename no need to call her out publicly.
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Ema of 5
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Today at 12:16 pm
amother NeonPink wrote: | Skipping 5 pages.
Was the baby crying? Ime if a baby is uncomfortable, he cries.
If not, op was projecting. She was cold so she assumed the baby would be too. |
Also keep in mind that the older we get, the harder it is for many to stay warm. My grandparents and great grandmother were always telling me to put on a sweater.
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Ema of 5
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Today at 12:17 pm
amother Holly wrote: | I apologize in advance fornwhat I'm going to say. It's not like me but this is getting under my skin. I've noticed a trend with the op. Multiple threads started with extreme judgements on scenarios she's seen in which mothers aren't mothering correctly according to her opinions. They go on for pages and nothing anyone says can change her mind thay maybe the parent wasn't actually abusing/neglecting thier child.
It's ok to have not perfect parenting moments. It's usually ok to let kids have autonomy of their bodies even they make mistakes sometimes. Mistakes help people learn for the next time that something should be done differently.
In this case, in Lakewood yesterday it was 39 degrees, yes cold but also not so terrible to not be bundled up to your ears every moment spent outdoors.
Thanks for listening to my rant. I hope people are able to see scenarios without so much judgement even if it's not fathomable how it can be so. |
This all should have been said privately in a message to the OP, or at least under your own screen name.
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Ema of 5
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Today at 12:18 pm
#BestBubby wrote: | I bet the posters who say don't judge the baby's mother,
Judge mothers who discipline more strictly than you, do sleep training, etc. |
I absolutely do not.
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Ema of 5
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Today at 12:19 pm
#BestBubby wrote: | Based on my observation that the people who parrot the "don't judge" leftist mantra are the same people who label others "Nazis" "Hitler" "genocide". |
Wrong again. Very very wrong.
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Cheiny
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Today at 12:24 pm
amother Brunette wrote: | Some people find it more uncomfortable than others and some people are fine with the cold and can enjoy it. I think people like OP are afraid of the cold and grew up with a mindset that it’s dangerous and will make you sick without realizing that you’d need to be out for hours for it to actually be dangerous. No harm has ever happened from going out in the cold not dressed for 5-10 minutes at a time. I’m sure that baby was fine. |
Lol, it’s pretty funny that you seem to believe you know what I think, and presume that I am “afraid of the cold, and grew up in a mindset that it’s dangerous and will make you sick…” You couldn’t be more off.
But keep going… it’s actually entertaining.
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amother
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Today at 12:25 pm
amother Candycane wrote: | This is so inappropriate. You have some constructive mussar you want to say to op private message her. Or at least post under your screenname. Im sure there are a lot more posters who have consistent themes but they post anonymously. This poster is brave to post under her screename no need to call her out publicly. |
I deleted my post so you can delete this one that quotes it
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Cheiny
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Today at 12:25 pm
Ema of 5 wrote: | She said she went over to OFFER help, but this is what she wrote she said.
I interrupted her phone conversation and gently suggested the baby needed to be wearing socks and not have her legs exposed in below freezing weather, as I felt that was the most pressing issue.
Offering to help doesn’t need to come with verbal judgement. |
Speaking of judgment… just sayin’
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amother
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Today at 12:29 pm
amother cornflower wrote: | And maybe by letting my kid think for himself and become a confident Individual it will give him the emotional and physical wellbeing for life vs. Getting squashed from mom who was so busy about doing what's socially right and not giving the child a voice to stick up for themselves.
So now whose more prone to predatory adults? |
Um, you misunderstood me.
I agree, that's why I wrote what I wrote.
You are agreeing with me that kids don't need to be told whether they are warm or cold.
I make my kids bring coats (or sweaters) with them in case they change their minds, but they don't have to *wear* the coats or sweaters...
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Reality
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Today at 12:29 pm
Ema of 5 wrote: | Also keep in mind that the older we get, the harder it is for many to stay warm. My grandparents and great grandmother were always telling me to put on a sweater. |
A very young baby also cannot regulate their temperature like an older child or young adult. A baby loses 40% of it's body heat through it's head. Was this baby wearing a hat or a hood?
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