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amother
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 Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:00 pm
| amother OP wrote: | This is our forever home.
I prefer wood as a look, it's so warm and classy.
My issue is the scratching. I can't babysit my floors so realistically speaking am I going to have yucky scratched up floors aside for the first year or so after it's been resanded and polished? Or will my floors be nice for a bunch of years and sanding every 10 years let's say is enough?
It seems everyone these days are doing vinyl as a preference to wood (not just as cheaper, some are actually not that cheap). Wondering if there is a reason why this is preferred by so many.
My house is an old house, it's not a new modern house and the floors are goners and nothing is level or flat. |
The answer is that wood scratches. I don't care what people say, unless you're not using the room the wood is going to get scratched.
So for the same price as wood you could do a high-end vinyl and that scratches less.
Another less typical option is a tile that looks like wood and that will not scratch at all and will hold up very nicely but it is cold.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:01 pm
| amother OP wrote: | We aren't going to do the floors again until we have to.
Sanding wood floors every few years is a lot of upkeep no?
Trying to figure out if I'll have nice floors for 8 years and then need them resanded or after a year or two they will be yucky and need to be resanded.
We have a very active busy household and I can't assume people will be careful to not scratch the floors.
Doesn't vinyl look like plastic? |
My parents did their house 16 years ago and never resanded. Granted it’s scratched in some places but nothing insane that screams “Omg how do they live like this?”, I wouldn’t worry about it now.
For reference we’re a family of 9 a bunch of boys, we were all little at that time. Kids rode scooter, rollerblades, baby bikes etc. in the house.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:07 pm
| amother OP wrote: | This is our forever home.
I prefer wood as a look, it's so warm and classy.
My issue is the scratching. I can't babysit my floors so realistically speaking am I going to have yucky scratched up floors aside for the first year or so after it's been resanded and polished? Or will my floors be nice for a bunch of years and sanding every 10 years let's say is enough?
It seems everyone these days are doing vinyl as a preference to wood (not just as cheaper, some are actually not that cheap). Wondering if there is a reason why this is preferred by so many.
My house is an old house, it's not a new modern house and the floors are goners and nothing is level or flat. |
What do you mean by level or flat? A step down? Or just uneven flooring? If the flooring is uneven definitely do not put down new floors without fixing that.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:11 pm
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We are 5+ years into wood on the full main floor including the kitchen and it looks great. Anyone who doesn’t have wood will tell you you’re crazy but speak to people who have wood it’s usually great and many years between needing to refresh it.
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:11 pm
| amother OP wrote: | This is our forever home.
I prefer wood as a look, it's so warm and classy.
My issue is the scratching. I can't babysit my floors so realistically speaking am I going to have yucky scratched up floors aside for the first year or so after it's been resanded and polished? Or will my floors be nice for a bunch of years and sanding every 10 years let's say is enough?
It seems everyone these days are doing vinyl as a preference to wood (not just as cheaper, some are actually not that cheap). Wondering if there is a reason why this is preferred by so many.
My house is an old house, it's not a new modern house and the floors are goners and nothing is level or flat. |
I think in an older home you need to take the subflooring into consideration as well. If your subfloors are un level, you likely won’t be able to install click-lock flooring of any kind without leveling your floors. So either leveling your subfloor or installing glue-down or nail-down flooring will drive up the price and will be something to take into consideration to know your budget per sqft. Nail-down install used for hardwood can work with unlevel floors, but it can be somewhat visible and they’ll eventually squeak. Glue-down is best if you’re not going to level your subfloor. It isn’t a great option for hardwood but can be done for engineered hardwood and LVP. The bonus of glue-down or nail-down install is that planks are more easily replaced.
I think a lot of “babying” of floors is really just preventative. Runner/area rugs, caps on the legs of furniture, no hockey in the house, no dogs, house shoes or no shoes, etc. those kinds of common sense things go a long way toward protecting the floors. But you can expect the scratches to slowly accumulate over time so your threshold of “wow we need to get these redone” is really a personal preference. You can always keep repair markers or stain on hand to touch up particularly bad scratches.
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amother
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:11 pm
| amother Plum wrote: | | We debated back and forth between wood vs. vinyl. The health risks with vinyl scared us off. Yes I know plastic ware and disposable and everything has risks... But was uncomfortable with babies crawling / licking things off floor... Google it | What is your wood finished with? Polyurethane is toxic too.
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mizle10
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:15 pm
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My wood floors are just hitting 10 years now. I have 6 kids ka”h, we are zero careful about the floors, and have hosted numerous parties. They still look beautiful. Vinyl also scratches, maybe not as easily, but can’t be refinished.
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nylon
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:56 pm
We put new floors in when we bought our house 12 years ago and they are still almost perfect. Two important things: Different woods have different hardnesses. Second, the newer type of wood floors that are prefinished with polyurethane are more durable than older floors. There's no toxic finishing in your house, and they get more layers of polyurethane on than when they finish in place. (There are certain other advantages to finish in place as you can customize the look.) You can get samples from the store and see how they scratch. You do want solid hardwood, not engineered; if engineered gets scratched, it can't be sanded down and fixed.
I don't think that LVP looks as nice. My sister has it in part of her house and despite looking better than old vinyl flooring, it doesn't look as nice or feel as good underfoot. Laminate I definitely wouldn't do, I have heard of so many problems with it.
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amother
Gray
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 3:57 pm
When you say a frum home what do you mean?
Heavy traffic area?
Why Am I the only one wondering? Lol
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mizle10
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Tue, Nov 19 2024, 4:02 pm
| nylon wrote: | We put new floors in when we bought our house 12 years ago and they are still almost perfect. Two important things: Different woods have different hardnesses. Second, the newer type of wood floors that are prefinished with polyurethane are more durable than older floors. There's no toxic finishing in your house, and they get more layers of polyurethane on than when they finish in place. (There are certain other advantages to finish in place as you can customize the look.) You can get samples from the store and see how they scratch. You do want solid hardwood, not engineered; if engineered gets scratched, it can't be sanded down and fixed.
I don't think that LVP looks as nice. My sister has it in part of her house and despite looking better than old vinyl flooring, it doesn't look as nice or feel as good underfoot. Laminate I definitely wouldn't do, I have heard of so many problems with it. |
You can refinish engineered wood, just less times than solid hardwood.
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Lydia
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:07 am
We just put in a new floor in a kitchen. We used a type of linoleum snap-in-place plank that can float over a subfloor or even an existing floor if needed. It's called Marmoleum by Forbo. It comes in tons of colors and styles, is very durable, and easy to install (unlike traditional linoleum). One major draw was that we didn't want the fake-wood or fake-stone look. It has cork backing so it's comfortable to walk on. The planks are available in squares or rectangles, but it almost doesn't matter because you can barely see the seams between the planks. The contractor had to mark the seams in tape so he could see them well enough to install straight! It's not super cheap, but not super expensive either, especially since the installation is very simple.
https://www.forbo.com/flooring.....fctp7
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amother
Aquamarine
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:16 am
| amother OP wrote: | | I dont like very shiny wood floors. |
You can do extra layers of Matte finish, the more layers= the less scratches you’ll see
And matte is NOT a shiny finish
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familyfirst
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:23 am
There’s vinyl and there’s vinyl
Take a
Key and scratch the tile
I’d it scratched, don’t buy it!!!
Someone recommended this trick to us and it worked!
Buy high end vinyl. So low mai tenancy and beautiful shades of browns and greys
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amother
Zinnia
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:29 am
Why does one talk about how horrible vinyl is to wash??? I know it’s not just mine cuz many ppl I say it to agree with me. It’s physically hard to wash! I way on a very tight budget so wood was out of the question and we did vinyl cuz we didn’t want to do carpet and it was the next cheapest option… it does not wash well!! And the floor guys have no clue. I asked one he told me just use a spray mop (hello? In a house full of kids a spray mop doesn’t do anything to a dirty floor besides spread the dirt around) and the other one I asked told me yeah it washes well, regular mop.
No it doesn’t ok? I had wood floor and ceramic tiles in my previous house and both were such a pleasure to mop. Vinyl is so not and the tough spots are very hard to get off. Same ocedar spin mop…
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amother
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:35 am
| amother OP wrote: | I am not doing tile for sure so that's not an option.
What is the mayleh of vinyl aside for lower cost? |
Absolutely nothing else
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amother
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 12:56 am
| Lydia wrote: | We just put in a new floor in a kitchen. We used a type of linoleum snap-in-place plank that can float over a subfloor or even an existing floor if needed. It's called Marmoleum by Forbo. It comes in tons of colors and styles, is very durable, and easy to install (unlike traditional linoleum). One major draw was that we didn't want the fake-wood or fake-stone look. It has cork backing so it's comfortable to walk on. The planks are available in squares or rectangles, but it almost doesn't matter because you can barely see the seams between the planks. The contractor had to mark the seams in tape so he could see them well enough to install straight! It's not super cheap, but not super expensive either, especially since the installation is very simple.
https://www.forbo.com/flooring.....fctp7 |
Where did you get this? Is this an old product or something new on the market?.
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Lydia
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 3:20 am
We special-ordered it from a home-supply store. We paid about $4.50/sq ft. I see it's more than that at Home Depot.
Linoleum has been around for 150 years. Marmoleum brand click tiles seem to have been around at least 30 years, but I think the "cinch loc" tiles might be an updated line of the product. I don't know how long they've been around, specifically.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 1:55 pm
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My parents had old wood floors that always got scratched. A few years ago, they put in new wood floors but put in the pre-treated wood that is already sanded and stained in the factory and just gets installed in your house. They look beautiful even in high traffic areas.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 2:01 pm
I have both wood and vinyl. I have wood on my main floor and upstairs in the bedroom. I put in vinyl planks. I priced them both out and to be honest the vinyl was not so much cheaper than the wood. I got very very good quality vinyl. The honest reason why I put vinyl upstairs as opposed to wood is because I did not want to move out of my house for 2 weeks to get it done. Plus the sanding plus the staining.
The nice thing about wood is that it could be refinished a bunch of times. The vinyl is nice also but to be honest it also can scratch. Near my kids beds it's scratched. We also had to do extra soundproofing underneath it because you can hear everything downstairs.
If I was doing it today I might actually have done one and not the vinyl. However, my vinyl does look gorgeous for the most part and I had it match the wooden floor so it looks really uniform.
There are also many different kinds of vinyl and they are all not equal. I put a cheaper one down in one room just to try it. (It's a computer room and didn't matter) And it really is horrible compared to the good ones.
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North Star
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Wed, Nov 20 2024, 2:03 pm
Here’s my advice:
Do wood, but don’t stain it. Natural colored wood is in anyway. Or stain it a very light color. The dark wood shows scratches, light does not, or barely shows.
That’s what I did. My kids roller blade and scooter on our floor, the chair pads keep falling off and scraping the floor, but you barely see scratches. It’s been like 5 years and no regrets.
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