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amother
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 Wed, Nov 13 2024, 5:34 pm
| Elfrida wrote: | | In modern English/American ch is assigned a specific sound, but traditionally it could be used in a much wider way. The Scottish term Loch (sea lake) has the ch at the end pronounced exactly as though it was written with a ח. (Unfortunately is has been modernised into sounding more like lock.) I think this guttural sound used to be much more common. | Interesting! I looked it up and it seems that was the spelling in Scotland, but in middle english it was spelled using gh. Maybe we should bring it back. "Do Gharedim in Israel wear lace top wigs?"
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Wolfsbane
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Wed, Nov 13 2024, 5:41 pm
| amother Pear wrote: | | Interesting! I looked it up and it seems that was the spelling in Scotland, but in middle english it was spelled using gh. Maybe we should bring it back. "Do Gharedim in Israel wear lace top wigs?" |
Like the gh in Van Gogh!
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Elfrida
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Wed, Nov 13 2024, 5:56 pm
| amother Pear wrote: | | Interesting! I looked it up and it seems that was the spelling in Scotland, but in middle english it was spelled using gh. Maybe we should bring it back. "Do Gharedim in Israel wear lace top wigs?" |
Right. And words like tough and rough that we pronounce with an f sound at the end of the word used to be pronounced with that guttural ח type sound at the end of the word.
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Tao
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Wed, Nov 13 2024, 7:36 pm
love how this started out as a thread about sheitels and ended with how to write ches in english 
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amother
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Wed, Nov 13 2024, 8:05 pm
| Elfrida wrote: | | Right. And words like tough and rough that we pronounce with an f sound at the end of the word used to be pronounced with that guttural ח type sound at the end of the word. | Tough and rough sound so much better with that harsh ending. I want to start using it now.
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amother
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Wed, Nov 13 2024, 8:09 pm
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I'm curious why ch became the accepted spelling in frum circles.
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LovesHashem
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 3:08 am
| amother Oleander wrote: | | I have no idea how to quote other responders but to the person upthread making sweeping statements about "real chareidim", much of which I disagree with, here is one important point: Please be very careful and do not post assumption as fact. Kiwi is actually a franchise with independently-owned branches and many of their stores are shomer Shabbos, including the Beit Shemesh branch. |
I'm not sure why you disagree with me, this is pretty standard. Chareidim also don't talk about pregnancies so much publicly, many publications won't write the word pregnancy or nursing, some publications won't write female names, no pictures of women, want to only live amongst chareidim.....
Yes, kiwi may be independently owned but corporate allows people to run branches on shabbos and they make money on shabbos. Also kiwi wasn't allowed to open in the new mall because of this. Their "frum" chain Yiddishkeit was.
The same reason you won't see papaya shoe stores in chareidi areas but ponpono ones instead. Many chareidim won't even go to BIG since BIG has malls open on shabbos.
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Indigo
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 5:50 am
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My Israeli daughters in law rented lace top wigs for their own weddings. Didn't get the point but apparently it is standard here. Chassidish type btw
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Dill
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 6:10 am
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If a mother shows up in a lace top wig to an interview in any of the big chareidi girls high schools in Yerushalayim (Yashan, Chadash, Snif etc.), her daughter will not be accepted.
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LovesHashem
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 6:28 am
| amother Dill wrote: | | If a mother shows up in a lace top wig to an interview in any of the big chareidi girls high schools in Yerushalayim (Yashan, Chadash, Snif etc.), her daughter will not be accepted. |
100%
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amother
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 6:38 am
Totally irrelevant but the real -dutch way to say it is Gog.
He was Dutch
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amother
Molasses
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 8:32 am
why is no one mentioning the fact that all the gedolim in america and in israel have come out against lace wigs?
believe me I am chalishing to have one.
but I think that there is value in listening to them.....
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kenz
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 8:54 am
| amother Indigo wrote: | | My Israeli daughters in law rented lace top wigs for their own weddings. Didn't get the point but apparently it is standard here. Chassidish type btw |
I get it. If they’re makpid to wear a sheitel to the wedding they want it to look as natural as possible.
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amother
Candycane
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 8:59 am
Clueless person here: how can you tell if a wig someone is wearing is lace top? What looks different about it than regular skin top?
I can definitely tell lace front because it looks like its coming from the head. But I never pay attention the top of someone's wig. It seems from this thread that it's very obvious.
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Bnei Berak 10
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Thu, Nov 14 2024, 9:02 am
| amother Molasses wrote: | why is no one mentioning the fact that all the gedolim in america and in israel have come out against lace wigs?
believe me I am chalishing to have one.
but I think that there is value in listening to them..... |
Lace top or lace front?
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