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amother
Cerulean  


 

Post Today at 6:42 am
amother Red wrote:
Why the need to put everyone down? This thread is so ridiculous. She asked about schools and so far all everyone did is make her feel unwelcome and attack her. You obviously don’t know about other circles and your derogatory comments about others are so uncalled for.


really?

ALL that EVERYONE did was attack her?

I actually see almost every post and response is useful, helpful information, directly addressing her questions and concerns as stated in the OP.
There are literally multiple pages of helpful posts.

To the person who suggested Arie Crown in Skokie, that's actually a great idea, if OP can swing moving to the Midwest. The parent body is exactly how she describes her hashkafa and it's a warm environment.

I myself went there, many years ago and grew up in a home like she describes. Worked out great!
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amother
Dandelion


 

Post Today at 6:46 am
I would look into Arie Crown in Skokie (Chicago suburb)
90% of their mothers wear some form of head covering at all times, maybe 50% fully covers
Good solid school.
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amother
  Cerulean  


 

Post Today at 6:50 am
amother Dandelion wrote:
I would look into Arie Crown in Skokie (Chicago suburb)
90% of their mothers wear some form of head covering at all times, maybe 50% fully covers
Good solid school.


Yeah, I second this!

And for high school there is the academy or hsby, both great choices (the academy is more left, it used to he co-ed, but I wonder if it still is)
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amother
  Oldlace


 

Post Today at 6:59 am
I'm sorry, but the suggestions of BPY and Noam are laughable here. Did you not read the op's follow up posts about needing to compromise with her husband? He will NOT be ok with either of those schools. Realistically, among the Bergen County schools, RYNJ is the only one that fits the criteria. YBH in Passaic may be an option too though might be more to the right than op wants. Community wise, they could live in Passaic and send to RYNJ, there are families that do that and it's not a crazy commute. There are Monsey families that do it too. Point being, you don't have to live in Teaneck/Bergenfield/Fairlawn to send there. High schools will be a whole other kettle of fish (though it sounds like she's not up to that stage yet) but she will have good options for both boys and girls for high school too in Northern NJ.
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amother
Nemesia


 

Post Today at 7:02 am
amother Sapphire wrote:
Hi,
Do you believe in Torah U’Madda? How do you feel about Zionism and the State of Israel? Girls learning Gemara?
Are you OK with these things or do you believe in them?

I just want to clarify if you are looking for MO l’chatcilla or b’dieved? As MO is not bummy yeshivish. If you are going RWMO (or YU machmir), I think you will need to dress fully tznius and likely know the psak and Shittas as to why things are acceptable.


lol I’m chassidish but on an ideological level I’m 100% modern orthodox. I really truly believe in all of those ideas. I’m even passionate about it and read up a lot.
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  mha3484




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 7:30 am
Just to add on to my comment earlier. I think you and your husband would find a lot of compromise OOT. Most of the rebbeim and moros at arie crown are black hat yeshivish but the school has real spectrum. I know some more left wing MO families who just value single gender education who send there a lot in the middle and some yeshivish who the more right wing schools just were not a fit for for whatever reason. To me, that is an ideal situation for a family that has divergent views like you and your husband.
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amother
  OP


 

Post Today at 10:03 am
amother Oldlace wrote:
I'm sorry, but the suggestions of BPY and Noam are laughable here. Did you not read the op's follow up posts about needing to compromise with her husband? He will NOT be ok with either of those schools. Realistically, among the Bergen County schools, RYNJ is the only one that fits the criteria. YBH in Passaic may be an option too though might be more to the right than op wants. Community wise, they could live in Passaic and send to RYNJ, there are families that do that and it's not a crazy commute. There are Monsey families that do it too. Point being, you don't have to live in Teaneck/Bergenfield/Fairlawn to send there. High schools will be a whole other kettle of fish (though it sounds like she's not up to that stage yet) but she will have good options for both boys and girls for high school too in Northern NJ.


I’m sure people were just trying to give some suggestions. BPY does not seem like an option for more reasons than just religious level but nonetheless, it was good to know to rule it out. Noam isn’t an option now but perhaps it would be down the road, who knows.

Yes RYNJ seems to be the best option currently and I’ve started looking into it. Thank you again.
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amother
  Cerulean


 

Post Today at 11:17 am
mha3484 wrote:
Just to add on to my comment earlier. I think you and your husband would find a lot of compromise OOT. Most of the rebbeim and moros at arie crown are black hat yeshivish but the school has real spectrum. I know some more left wing MO families who just value single gender education who send there a lot in the middle and some yeshivish who the more right wing schools just were not a fit for for whatever reason. To me, that is an ideal situation for a family that has divergent views like you and your husband.


💯

Well said. Very well described.
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amother
Mayflower


 

Post Today at 11:42 am
What about ashar? In Monsey. I think you’d fit in there. Most of the families are not ideologically modox, not in a negative way but they’re doing their own thing halachically/ hashkafically. And your husband would probably be ok with it too. There are plenty who send there that aren’t super modern.
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zaq




 
 
    
 

Post Today at 11:45 am
amother Cantaloupe wrote:
No zionist school ‘blindly’ supports the State of Israel. Being a religious Zionist, chardal, or DL is very thorough and detailed on this hashkafa. Many modern orthodox people are also Zionists. Schools that support it also do have similar characteristics, or a background and story to that.
Personally, I found that remark insulting, especially when Israel has been a harbor for Jews fleeing antisemitism and is currently fighting a war on 4 fronts to keep the only Jewish nation existing.
I understand the context you are coming from, which is fine, but try to keep it a little respectful.


I couldn't agree more.
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amother
  Snapdragon


 

Post Today at 11:53 am
amother Mayflower wrote:
What about ashar? In Monsey. I think you’d fit in there. Most of the families are not ideologically modox, not in a negative way but they’re doing their own thing halachically/ hashkafically. And your husband would probably be ok with it too. There are plenty who send there that aren’t super modern.

I agree with this it does sound like the best option. As far as parent body u have a big mix. It's still seperate not too far hashgafically to the left for your husband and no one will care how u dress.
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amother
  Melon


 

Post Today at 12:58 pm
amother Oldlace wrote:
I'm sorry, but the suggestions of BPY and Noam are laughable here. Did you not read the op's follow up posts about needing to compromise with her husband? He will NOT be ok with either of those schools. Realistically, among the Bergen County schools, RYNJ is the only one that fits the criteria. YBH in Passaic may be an option too though might be more to the right than op wants. Community wise, they could live in Passaic and send to RYNJ, there are families that do that and it's not a crazy commute. There are Monsey families that do it too. Point being, you don't have to live in Teaneck/Bergenfield/Fairlawn to send there. High schools will be a whole other kettle of fish (though it sounds like she's not up to that stage yet) but she will have good options for both boys and girls for high school too in Northern NJ.


Noam is the second most RW elementary school, OP does sound like she’d fit in with the mothers there. BPY is more to the left overall but it’s very diverse with some more to the right and some more to the left.
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amother
Ultramarine


 

Post Today at 1:43 pm
I have (or had) friends at all the Bergen schools. Noam is officially to the right of Yavneh and BPY, but still some very modern parents (I don't mean this as an insult at all as I am quite modern) who like the school for other parts of its approach.

Of the BC schools I think OP's husband would be the most comfortable with RYNJ. Most of the mothers cover their hair though some might leave some out.

The thing about the MO schools is that while they do not select in quite the same way as RW schools (less picky about externals and small details) that does not mean someone will be totally comfortable there.

Prospect is not really Modern Orthodox. it is more the leftmost of the not-modern schools. In my day it was not even that, but as Brooklyn has changed it has attracted a less right wing crowd. The administration is not MO.

Shulamith is a bit different in that while it is hashkafically more modern, it has rules about things like coed activities that the coed-but-separated schools do not. For example, they do not allow coed summer camps, whereas I know YNJ families who send to Bnei Akiva camp.
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amother
Orchid


 

Post Today at 1:58 pm
I just wanted to add something about YNJ - I don't live in the area anymore so obviously things could have changed but I went there years ago. While the school as a whole was the "frummer" school compared to the others in the area, the families still had a big mix. There were definitely mothers who wore pants and didn't fully cover their hair etc but when coming to the school they followed the dress code (or at least close to it)
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amother
Begonia


 

Post Today at 2:03 pm
Ybh in passaic could work but you would need to follow the Tzniyus rules.
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amother
Steel


 

Post Today at 2:14 pm
amother Orchid wrote:
I just wanted to add something about YNJ - I don't live in the area anymore so obviously things could have changed but I went there years ago. While the school as a whole was the "frummer" school compared to the others in the area, the families still had a big mix. There were definitely mothers who wore pants and didn't fully cover their hair etc but when coming to the school they followed the dress code (or at least close to it)

OP, is this something you’re willing to do?
You don’t have to answer here but consider it for yourself and find out what the schools expect from mothers who come in to pick up a sick kid or to plays/graduation.
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