What's the obsession with "dips" for every shab

amother

↑ Jade

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:13 am

Bnei Berak 10 wrote:

What's wrong with salatim? Doesn't need to be unhealthy.

In and of themselves salatim are pretty healthy. It's just that often people eat more challah with them than they should.

amother

Turquoise ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:17 am

Ruchel wrote:

Shabbos party? What?
Yes, same for simanim. I'm not picking up stuff my family didn't do. Unless my husband's family did it. I mean random stuff.
Salatim dieticians are begging people to stop

Salatim, really? There is a such a large range and many are very nutritious. Ime homemade salatim aren't drowning in oil the way catered salatim are. My kids eat so many vegetables in that course thanks to the salatim. Carrots, beets, eggplant, peppers, tomatoes, radishes, cucumbers, fennel, kohlrabi. That's a typical spread for us and we love it. Can't for the life of me imagine why a nutritionist wouldn't approve.

↑ Ruchel ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:20 am

Bnei Berak 10 wrote:

You mean Ashkenazi East European cooking, right?
Mayonnaise is more French/Spanish cuisine by origin but today it's widespread.

You can put mayo anywhere. But if you add ketchup to chulent it doesn't make ketchup Jewish

↑ Aurora

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:22 am

amother Turquoise wrote:

Would you please post recipes? They sound delicious.

↑ Ruchel ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:24 am

amother Turquoise wrote:

The oil. I've been invited and seen. Salatim aren't crudités.

↑ etky

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:24 am

amother Jade wrote:

In and of themselves salatim are pretty healthy. It's just that often people eat more challah with them than they should.

Also, I think that salatim were added to many people's shabbat menus at some point, but the rest of the menu was never streamlined to take into account the bulked up first course. So the net result is just a lot more food being served at the meal. People are just taking in too many calories at one sitting.

↑ Bnei Berak 10 ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:24 am

OP, the Moroccan cuisine has loads of salatim/dips as 1st course. This is not something new, when the immigrants came to Israel they brought it with them and it has influenced the whole of Israel. Even super Ashkenazi Yerushalmim served tehina dip together with gefilte fish as a 1st course in the 70's.
And this influence was brought over to the USA.
It has nothing to do with Instagram or other media.
If you don't like dips then don't prepare and don't serve. Here is no Halacha you need dips.

↑ Bnei Berak 10 ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:30 am

Ruchel wrote:

The oil. I've been invited and seen. Salatim aren't crudités.

So yes, many of them contain oil. If you do homemade you may skimp on the oil.

Chayalle

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 9:46 am

We never heard of dips when I grew up, but we sure dipped our Challah. I remember there was always the jelled sauce of fish, chrain (with or without mayo), etc....we didn't eat our Challah plain (unless we wanted to). The concept of Challah with spread is not foreign.

So later on when dips became popular, the additions were pretty natural. We did it because (we think) it tastes good.

amother

↑ Turquoise ↓

Tue, Sep 24 2024, 10:09 am

Ruchel wrote:

The oil. I've been invited and seen. Salatim aren't crudités.

Ok, what I make and in my circles we don't use a lot of oil. Similar to any other salad. There's nothing wrong with a little olive oil, in fact it's part of a healthy diet for most people. But all of the salads I make can be prepared without oil too if someone would choose. Why would anyone go to the extreme of cutting them completely?

amother

Natural

Wed, Sep 25 2024, 6:31 am

Not sure why anti posters keeping talking about a dips course.

NO ONE has that. The fish salads or whatever are served along with it. Unless of course they don't like fish.

icedcoffee

Wed, Sep 25 2024, 7:15 am

amother Natural wrote:

Not sure why anti posters keeping talking about a dips course.

NO ONE has that. The fish salads or whatever are served along with it. Unless of course they don't like fish.

I've been to many tables that has a dips course. I think if this thread has taught anything, it's that people do things differently, so I don't know how you can say with capital letters certainty that no one does this...

↑ Brit in Israel

Wed, Sep 25 2024, 7:22 am

amother Natural wrote:

Not sure why anti posters keeping talking about a dips course.

NO ONE has that. The fish salads or whatever are served along with it. Unless of course they don't like fish.

Many people do, especially if serving hot fish and dips that have juice e.g cucumber, techina or carrots.
You first do the dips then bring in the fish.
I also don't it when I've finally sat down for the first time that Friday, I'm not jumping up the minute I get my challah to start serving fish. Sometimes DH will if he is hungry and doesn't want to fill up on challah otherwise we enjoy the dips and then move on to fish

amother

↑ Turquoise

Wed, Sep 25 2024, 8:03 am

Ruchel wrote:

From what I see people only like oil and skip if they can't have it

So you'll have to join us one day! As long as you like vegetables you'll have plenty to eat Very Happy

↑ Bnei Berak 10

Wed, Sep 25 2024, 8:25 am

Ruchel wrote:

From what I see people only like oil and skip if they can't have it

You knew why salads with oil are more popular? Because of the fat which brings out the taste.