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amother
Vanilla
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 2:55 pm
deena19k wrote: | Interesting to read. Here in Israel the kids have to bring a water bottle for their desk and the teachers constantly remind them to drink. And it doesnt seem to be disruptive at all. |
Exactly, they just need to make it the norm and it will become normal.
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NotInNJMommy
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 2:58 pm
This seems like such an odd hill for hanhola to figuratively die on. Why have grumpy, thirsty kids? Also good hydration helps with attention especially later in the day.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 4:18 pm
amother Midnight wrote: | My school doesn’t allow water bottles. I have tried numerous times to not enforce that rule and got a lot of pushback . I tried. |
What do you mean they don't allow water bottles? Kids aren't allowed to bring water to school?? How is that okay?
Bh my kids can have their (no-spill) water bottles at their desks & drink whenever needed.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 4:24 pm
No spill water bottles should be basic but then when 3rd grade boys start using it as an excuse to disrupt and drop them in the floor "accidentally" 48x in class and the whole class follows suit... it's not always a given. I teach older students now and water is a given
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Amarante
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 4:24 pm
O thought she meant they were allowing them to drink alcoholic beverages and I was prepared to be extremely shocked.
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CatLady
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 4:30 pm
Amarante wrote: | O thought she meant they were allowing them to drink alcoholic beverages and I was prepared to be extremely shocked. |
Same here! After reading the threads on vaping and giving kids booze at home, I guess it skewed my expectations.
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tichellady
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 4:40 pm
I have never heard of kids not being allowed to drink water in class. That is just bizarre
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 5:11 pm
amother Garnet wrote: | What do you mean they don't allow water bottles? Kids aren't allowed to bring water to school?? How is that okay?
Bh my kids can have their (no-spill) water bottles at their desks & drink whenever needed. |
Water bottles not allowed on desks . Only in backpacks out of site.
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amother
Linen
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 5:22 pm
tichellady wrote: | I have never heard of kids not being allowed to drink water in class. That is just bizarre |
Allowing kids to drink in class is a relatively new phenomenon
When I went to school many years ago it would have been unthinkable. Maybe if one were dying of thirst you could raise your hand and ask to get a drink at the water fountain in the hall.
But it was a completely different lifestyle - people didn't carry water bottles - they didn't worry about being hydrated and it was assumed that anyone past the age of being a toddler would be able to refrain from eating or drinking for an hour or so which was when there would be a break of some kind.
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chanatron1000
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 5:37 pm
I also thought this would be about alcohol...
I am 100% pro allowing and encouraging students to drink water during class. A lot of people don't drink enough water. It's not healthy to get used to ignoring thirst. (Maybe if kids aren't mature enough to handle keeping a no-spill water bottle on them, then they're immature enough to be treated like babies and have their teachers give them frequent water breaks.)
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 7:17 pm
It’s interesting, I’m really not “old school” on a lot of things but I really don’t see the big deal here. Any kid above 2nd-3rd grade should be able to manage their bodies and their time well enough to drink enough water during break times. It’s an executive functioning skill, if you will. This is assuming the classroom has air conditioning.
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sequoia
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 7:28 pm
amother Snow wrote: | It’s interesting, I’m really not “old school” on a lot of things but I really don’t see the big deal here. Any kid above 2nd-3rd grade should be able to manage their bodies and their time well enough to drink enough water during break times. It’s an executive functioning skill, if you will. This is assuming the classroom has air conditioning. |
This has nothing to do with executive functioning. Hydration happens through gradual sips, not gulping a whole bunch of water at once.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 7:33 pm
amother Snow wrote: | It’s interesting, I’m really not “old school” on a lot of things but I really don’t see the big deal here. Any kid above 2nd-3rd grade should be able to manage their bodies and their time well enough to drink enough water during break times. It’s an executive functioning skill, if you will. This is assuming the classroom has air conditioning. |
Maybe my kids are unique.
But if we gulp down more than a cup or 2 at once, we need the bathroom within an hour.
Taking small sips throughout the day works better for us.
If my children "organize" themselves to drink during the break, they are the "disruptive" kids who desperately need the bathroom during class.
So my kids and most others solve the problem by just barely drinking. 1 cup an entire day
Congratulations. Another generation is taught that being human is a flaw
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amother
Mimosa
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 7:36 pm
I’m a teacher and this is so weird I never heard of this. I let me students keep their water bottles under their desk, they need to be non spill and can’t be plastic (because then they crunch them the whole day) and yes they go out to the bathroom a lot but they’re people too, why wouldn’t I let them use the bathroom?
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 10:23 pm
amother Snow wrote: | It’s interesting, I’m really not “old school” on a lot of things but I really don’t see the big deal here. Any kid above 2nd-3rd grade should be able to manage their bodies and their time well enough to drink enough water during break times. It’s an executive functioning skill, if you will. This is assuming the classroom has air conditioning. |
I strongly disagree. It’s teaching kids to not listen to their body and their thirst. For life we want kids attuned to their bodies messages not trying to suppress them. In 2024 no child should sit in class thirsty because a teacher or Rebbi won’t allow a sip of water.
Optimal executive functioning would be hydrating oneself throughout the day. Not to organize it by controlled breaks as authorized by the adult in control.
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amother
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 10:23 pm
amother Mimosa wrote: | I’m a teacher and this is so weird I never heard of this. I let me students keep their water bottles under their desk, they need to be non spill and can’t be plastic (because then they crunch them the whole day) and yes they go out to the bathroom a lot but they’re people too, why wouldn’t I let them use the bathroom? |
I wish there were more teachers like you.
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amother
Cherry
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 10:35 pm
I'm scratching my head here. I'm a teacher, I have a bunch of kids in school, I went to school and I have never heard of not being allowed to have a water bottle in class. Is this really a common thing that teachers don't let kids drink from no spill water bottles? How common is this actually? Maybe it's cultural because I have never heard of this
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amother
Cappuccino
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Thu, Sep 05 2024, 11:17 pm
amother Linen wrote: | Allowing kids to drink in class is a relatively new phenomenon
When I went to school many years ago it would have been unthinkable. Maybe if one were dying of thirst you could raise your hand and ask to get a drink at the water fountain in the hall.
But it was a completely different lifestyle - people didn't carry water bottles - they didn't worry about being hydrated and it was assumed that anyone past the age of being a toddler would be able to refrain from eating or drinking for an hour or so which was when there would be a break of some kind. |
It might be new but it is mainstream now. I am in my mid 30s and I definitely had a water bottle in school. Not everyone did but I was someone who felt very thirsty throughout the day. My school had maybe one or two water fountains and the break between classes was just enough time to get to the next class, so now, drinking between each class was not realistic
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