Refusing to wear glasses

amother

↑ Darkblue ↓

Wed, Aug 28 2024, 8:09 pm

amother OP wrote:

I spoke to her today. It's not going to work unfortunately although many of her friends wear glasses. I had a thought that perhaps we bought the same pair of glasses as one of her friends and maybe that's why she refuses to wear them but she confirmed with me that we didn't. I tried asking her in a roundabout way about her eye exam, and her body language told me she is annoyed and not willing to cooperate so I backed down.

There is a certain health issue I need to sort out with the doctor and then discuss with my husband if we can dedicate $200/year towards lenses for her. She needs to be able to see full stop. I have a laundry list of things in my home that could use that money but she needs her eyes, and Hashem will have to find a way for us to have what we need.

I am very impressed that you were able to hear all the criticism and change tactics. Hashem should bless you and your family with good health and money to cover all your expenses.

amother

↑ OP

Wed, Aug 28 2024, 8:21 pm

amother Darkblue wrote:

I am very impressed that you were able to hear all the criticism and change tactics. Hashem should bless you and your family with good health and money to cover all your expenses.

If you would have read my posts from the very beginning, you would understand that I am asking my question because I recognize that my daughter cannot continue on this way. Did you really think I posted just so I can ignore the obvious solution? Did you think I never heard of lenses before?
I suggest you reread your posts.
I am going to buy my daughter the cute little colorful school supplies she likes because that's what awful rigid neglectful mothers do.

amother

↑ Darkblue

Wed, Aug 28 2024, 8:27 pm

amother OP wrote:

I reread my posts and yours people were genuinely trying to help . Your posts are just so angry and nasty including this one.

↑ Raizle

Wed, Aug 28 2024, 9:27 pm

amother OP wrote:

Thank you but I cannot drag her once again to the eye dr. I am going to go with whatever the dr said last time. Its not the eye dr I usually use but I have no reason not to trust his opinion and expertise.

With all due respect a two minute assessment is reason not to trust. It never takes that quick

amother

↑ Chicory

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 10:50 am

Op, how's your daughter? Did you make a decision or come up with a compromise?

amother

Navy ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 11:40 am

Hi op,

I admit I didnt read the whole thread yet so excuse me if its been mentioned.

First of all has your daughter shown any interest in contact lenses?

Second, Have you looked into orthokeratology?
They are corrective lenses worn at night.

I wore lenses for years. With astigmatism.

Until after the birth of my last child just were not comfortable.
Every single type I tried.
And exhausted all the option.

Ortho K was the last resort.
Bh its worked amazingly.

amother

↑ Jade ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 1:27 pm

amother Navy wrote:

Where is this available?

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 2:04 pm

amother Jade wrote:

Where is this available?

Im in england but Im sure its available in US and elsewhere.

amother

↑ Jade

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 2:11 pm

amother Navy wrote:

Im in england but Im sure its available in US and elsewhere.

In the US and never heard of this! I’ve been wearing glasses since I’m 8 years old and all my kids need glasses so I doubt it’s available here (yet) since I never heard of this.

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 5:38 pm

amother Jade wrote:

In the US and never heard of this! I’ve been wearing glasses since I’m 8 years old and all my kids need glasses so I doubt it’s available here (yet) since I never heard of this.

I highly doubt its available in england and not in America.

orthokeratology- the temporary reshaping of the cornea (usually overnight) with specially made rigid contact lenses, in order to correct myopia.

Here is correct spelling.
Maybe you can google it

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 5:39 pm

It needs specialised equipment so most opticians dont do it.

My regular optician mentioned it to me in passing, but had barely any idea about it.

I had to google locations.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 6:59 pm

Those might be the lenses my daughter has that she needs to wear for 8 hours, but she was told to wear them during the day, not overnight.

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Thu, Sep 19 2024, 11:02 pm

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

Those might be the lenses my daughter has that she needs to wear for 8 hours, but she was told to wear them during the day, not overnight.

Hard lenses?
Do they correct her vision when she takes them out she can see?

They were orginally made for children to stop vision loss progressing.

↑ Hashem_Yaazor

Fri, Sep 20 2024, 2:41 am

amother Navy wrote:

Hard lenses?
Do they correct her vision when she takes them out she can see?

They were orginally made for children to stop vision loss progressing.

No they're soft but they're supposed to stop/slow the progress of myopia with treatment zones in the lenses... Her vision isn't being corrected but rather supposed to stay stable so it doesn't get worse.

amother

↑ Navy ↓

Fri, Sep 20 2024, 3:56 am

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

Right.

The ones I use correct the vision temporarily so after taking the lenses out in the morning, there is no need to wear anything in the day.

It takes around 2 weeks (depending how high prescription is) to correct the vision.

After that no glasses are needed but lenses must be in at night.

Skipping a night or 2 is fine for me.

To reverse the effects, you can simply stop wearing then and vision will revert back to normal in a few weeks.

ETA: There is another type of lenses my optician had as a different route.
They are very big , bigger then regular soft lenses and also custom made.
They are meant to be super comfortable too.

amother

Outerspace

Fri, Sep 20 2024, 5:45 am

amother Navy wrote:

Another navy are you in London? If yes can you tell me the name of your optician?

It sounds like I have the same issue. Ive tried so many different lenses. Some have been better than others but none have been comfortable enough to wear all day. It will be so nice to able not to have to wear glasses again

amother

↑ Navy

Fri, Sep 20 2024, 6:59 am

Sorry im In Manchester.

I go to The Village Optician and I see Michael greenberg.
He is tops.
He told me his wife wears these lenses too.

I originally went to boots and we exhausted all the options.
Was so fed up.
Was even looking into laser.

I orig googled ortho k and checked where suppliers are.
Or you could call my optician and ask where he would recommend.
He is in touch with the heads of the company(theyv come to see him, think theyr fron London) so Im sure he would be helpful

↑ Chayalle

Fri, Sep 20 2024, 7:31 am

amother OP wrote:

My daughter had a very slight prescription in second grade. She got glasses then but said she didn't need them so she never wore them. At her annual physicals and other eye tests, her prescription didn't worsen so I didn't interfere when she decided not to wear them.
This past year in ninth grade she told me a few times that she couldn't see the board. After pesach I took her for another eye test and the dr was shocked she's not wearing glasses. She spent not more than two minutes getting tested before she came back out to me. Now that I think about it I don't know how he could test her so quickly unless she told him a bunch of "I don't knows" in order to finish up quickly. This is a very likely scenario. I don't generally go into exam rooms with my teens unless they want me to. An eye test is pretty straightforward, I didn't see a need to be there, she said she didnt need me.
I called the eye dr this morning to ask for her prescription. Currently doubting its accuracy. She doesn't squint to try to see things faraway, she's an A+ student. She has a long walk to and from school every day. She hasn't missed any camp activities or anything that would tell me she isn't seeing what she's supposed to. It could be she's overcompensating other ways.

I want to comment on this thread. When I was a girl, eye exams were indeed lengthy and cumbersome, and necessary in order to determine the prescription. Nowadays, they use machines to scan and do what they used to do manually, and then they do a manual check to make sure the machine is accurate. By the time your daughter saw the doctor, he likely already knew what her general prescription might be, and it just took a few minutes to confirm it. So I doubt that the prescription is very off in terms of accuracy.

I also want to say as someone who definitely needs to wear glasses but doesn't always, and cannot wear contacts (I believe I posted about that upthread), I can actually see pretty well in most scenarios without my glasses on. I need them most for driving and for work (I'm a computer programmer) but I could see doing the activities you describe quite well without glasses. I could walk to and from school, socialize, etc...with no problem. I don't wear them to read, even, I'm sure I could keep grades up without glasses. I would have trouble seeing the blackboard, but could copy another student's notes instead. So I can totally see your daughter leading a fairly normal life without wearing her glasses (which may be adding to her resistence to wearing them.)

My teen wasn't wearing her lenses for a while and lately she started wearing them. Now that she got used to the difference in sight, she is more motivated to put them in every morning BH, but before she got into them, she coasted along pretty normally (and definitely resented any mention about wearing them on my part.)