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amother
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 Fri, Aug 02 2024, 4:26 pm
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Specifically onion rolls and sesame sticks. Bought from bingo and it says on the package made with fruit juice.
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amother
Pistachio
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 4:34 pm
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The ones I buy from evergreen say Mezonos. I was told to wash and say hamotzie regardless as it constitutes a meal
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tweety1
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:16 pm
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It's a real מחלוקת הפוסקים. The kosova ruv zatzal had a very strong opinion against mezonas rolls.
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bsy
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:18 pm
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Does it taste like bread or cake? If it tastes like bread and you use it as bread, there is no such thing as mezonos.
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amother
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:20 pm
A little off topic, but why do you not wash on babka or Cinnamon buns that was made with extra challah dough?
I thought if it's flour and water you wash, but apple juice you don't.
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amother
Nectarine
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:23 pm
| amother OP wrote: | A little off topic, but why do you not wash on babka or Cinnamon buns that was made with extra challah dough?
I thought if it's flour and water you wash, but apple juice you don't. |
If you're havong enough to be a seudah, you'd need to wash on it too. But it is cake-like in taste which is what differentiates it.
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singleagain
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:39 pm
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This is an AYLOR question as different rabbis have different opinions
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amother
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:50 pm
The reason it says made with juice is because some people will say mezonos if made with at least 2/3rds fruit juice and some people will always wash no matter how the bread or rolls are made.
So they're announcing to one without offending the other.
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amother
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Fri, Aug 02 2024, 5:51 pm
There are those that say if it is mezonos you cannot make homotzi on it
One must wash on a piece of bread or matzah first
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peachmommy
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 9:16 pm
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Although Mezonos bread can be complicated, if it was made with fruit juice it's OFFICIALLY Mezonos, yes. For those that hold of having Mezonos bread under a certain amount etc.
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tweety1
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 9:59 pm
| bsy wrote: | | Does it taste like bread or cake? If it tastes like bread and you use it as bread, there is no such thing as mezonos. |
This opinion exactly was what kossova ruv z"l said.
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amother
Wheat
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Sat, Aug 03 2024, 10:08 pm
| amother OP wrote: | A little off topic, but why do you not wash on babka or Cinnamon buns that was made with extra challah dough?
I thought if it's flour and water you wash, but apple juice you don't. |
big machlokehs.
in our home, we would say it’s hamotzi. and we wash for buns made with leftover challah dough, even if it has a lot of filling.
others, do not.
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bsy
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Sun, Aug 04 2024, 1:41 am
| amother OP wrote: | A little off topic, but why do you not wash on babka or Cinnamon buns that was made with extra challah dough?
I thought if it's flour and water you wash, but apple juice you don't. |
Because it is filled. A hard cracker like texture also makes something mezonos.
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