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amother
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 Sun, Jun 23 2024, 9:22 pm
| amother Winterberry wrote: | | Many don't do regents, but use previous regents as a base of learning. Chasidish schools are varying on the level of curriculum. |
Can you name the many that don't take regents?
Aside from Satmar, Viznitz and maybe skver schools, most do.
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amother
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Sun, Jun 23 2024, 10:13 pm
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Chassidish circulation usually follows the chassidus. They learn strong Yiddish how yo read write and vocabulary. Halacha is more strict. A by learns more basic halacha. The kids are also a bit more formal most have to mature a little bit earlier because at 18 they are already engaged to be married. They also learn more homemaking skills in the high school. Cooking skills,hair cutting skills to name a few. The schools usually let almost no technology for the girls.
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amother
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Sun, Jun 23 2024, 10:23 pm
| amother Hunter wrote: | | Depends which. My Belze neighbor didn't learn inside a Chumash. I don't think they learned more than Rashi. Satmar for sure doesn't. Many Chassidish schools in New York don't take regents or learn certain sciences in high school. |
I went to belz monsey and we learned chumash inside with all the meforshim. my bunkmates in belz camp from belz bp also did.
I believe satmar is the only chassidish school these days that doesn't learn anything text based.
there are def some chassidish schools that are on a lower level than BY schools in secular subjects, but it really varies from school to school.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 4:41 am
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I’m a BY graduate was once shmoozing with a Satmar high school teacher (she was a client of mine). We discussed the differences and she was saying Satmar doesn’t learn Chumash etc inside the Sefer which is a huge difference from BY curriculum. In BY there is a huge emphasis on chumash and meforshim inside-most graduates can open any chumash and read rambans etc. I think that’s the biggest difference but doesn’t app,y to all chassidish girls schools. Limudei chop varies a lot- some BY are very academic think TAG, drav meir where girls are fully prepared to go to any college they want to and some BY it’s much less.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 4:51 am
| amother Ginger wrote: | | Chassidish circulation usually follows the chassidus. They learn strong Yiddish how yo read write and vocabulary. Halacha is more strict. A by learns more basic halacha. The kids are also a bit more formal most have to mature a little bit earlier because at 18 they are already engaged to be married. They also learn more homemaking skills in the high school. Cooking skills,hair cutting skills to name a few. The schools usually let almost no technology for the girls. |
A BY learns halacha inside and out. Not basic level. Unless you mean they teach chassidish minhag as halachos? Like 2 coverings are necessary or you must wear beige tights? Because halachic tznius, shabbos, kashrus etc.. is taught thoroughly. So what are you talking about?
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 5:49 am
| amother Hyssop wrote: | I went to a Williamsburg school and we took regents. Our learning was pretty intense.
(I actually don't understand the point of regents, was torture for many of us.) |
Do you mind sharing which school this was and what decade? I'm really curious which school this was.
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Amelia Bedelia
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 5:53 am
| amother NeonGreen wrote: | | Do you mind sharing which school this was and what decade? I'm really curious which school this was. |
My guess is it was Vien
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 5:59 am
| amother Canary wrote: | | I’m a BY graduate was once shmoozing with a Satmar high school teacher (she was a client of mine). We discussed the differences and she was saying Satmar doesn’t learn Chumash etc inside the Sefer which is a huge difference from BY curriculum. In BY there is a huge emphasis on chumash and meforshim inside-most graduates can open any chumash and read rambans etc. I think that’s the biggest difference but doesn’t app,y to all chassidish girls schools. Limudei chop varies a lot- some BY are very academic think TAG, drav meir where girls are fully prepared to go to any college they want to and some BY it’s much less. |
Not learning inside is a Satmer thing, not a chassidish thing. Most chassidish schools learn inside with all meforshim.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 6:02 am
| amother Ginger wrote: | | Chassidish circulation usually follows the chassidus. They learn strong Yiddish how yo read write and vocabulary. Halacha is more strict. A by learns more basic halacha. The kids are also a bit more formal most have to mature a little bit earlier because at 18 they are already engaged to be married. They also learn more homemaking skills in the high school. Cooking skills,hair cutting skills to name a few. The schools usually let almost no technology for the girls. |
I went to a chassidish school in williamsburg? Haircutting and cooking? Never. Who gets engaged these days at 18 in 12th grade? And no, we didnt learn a STRONG yiddish. We read yiddish stories in the lower grades. Didnt learn yiddish as a subject at all after 3rd or 4th grade.
Maybe you are referencing satmar?
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 6:03 am
I am not aware of a single school in Williamsburg that took regents. Most chassidish schools dont.
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Amelia Bedelia
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 6:06 am
| amother NeonOrange wrote: | | I am not aware of a single school in Williamsburg that took regents. Most chassidish schools dont. |
Vien takes Regents. Pupa and Klausenberg possibly do too.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 6:07 am
| amother NeonOrange wrote: | | I am not aware of a single school in Williamsburg that took regents. Most chassidish schools dont. |
This was 20 years ago. Said school doesn't take regents anymore.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 6:09 am
| amother NeonOrange wrote: | I went to a chassidish school in williamsburg? Haircutting and cooking? Never. Who gets engaged these days at 18 in 12th grade? And no, we didnt learn a STRONG yiddish. We read yiddish stories in the lower grades. Didnt learn yiddish as a subject at all after 3rd or 4th grade.
Maybe you are referencing satmar? |
We had sewing, haircutting & cooking classes. (Not Satmer) I think most schools took it out of the curriculum already by now.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 12:39 pm
| amother Hyssop wrote: | | This was 20 years ago. Said school doesn't take regents anymore. |
Ah... the dumbing down of society. It's all over, including in Regents schools.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 12:40 pm
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In Monsey most chassidish schools are NOT equivalent to BY curiculum. Only one takes Regents, AFAIK, the new Bobov. Anyone who says they're equivalent has never attended BY.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 1:28 pm
| amother Hyssop wrote: | I went to a Williamsburg school and we took regents. Our learning was pretty intense.
(I actually don't understand the point of regents, was torture for many of us.) |
Vien? I don't think any other school in Williamsburg takes regents.
I think some credits count towards a degree.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 1:29 pm
| amother Ginger wrote: | | Chassidish circulation usually follows the chassidus. They learn strong Yiddish how yo read write and vocabulary. Halacha is more strict. A by learns more basic halacha. The kids are also a bit more formal most have to mature a little bit earlier because at 18 they are already engaged to be married. They also learn more homemaking skills in the high school. Cooking skills,hair cutting skills to name a few. The schools usually let almost no technology for the girls. |
I attended satmar monsey.nwe learned haircutting in 12th grade. No cooking ect.
And with my chassidish education, I can barely reach and write in yiddish. I'm fluent when I talk but would never ever be able to read a yiddish novel for the life of me
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 1:34 pm
| amother Ghostwhite wrote: | Vien? I don't think any other school in Williamsburg takes regents.
I think some credits count towards a degree. |
Does klousenberg in Williamsburg not take regents? Klousenberg BP takes for years now.
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amother
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Mon, Jun 24 2024, 1:41 pm
| amother Hunter wrote: | | Depends which. My Belze neighbor didn't learn inside a Chumash. I don't think they learned more than Rashi. Satmar for sure doesn't. Many Chassidish schools in New York don't take regents or learn certain sciences in high school. | that’s no true I went to Belz school we did learn Chumash inside and we literally covered everything, rashi, rambam, ramban, toisfes….. cover to cover. my school is definitely not less intense then a BY school. Same with the secular curriculum. My Belz school is considered one of the higher education schools
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