Ideas of suppers for non kosher cruise- can’t use Betty

amother

Begonia

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 2:13 pm

Lkwdmom4 wrote:

Can you bring a hot logic food warmer? It heats at a really low temperature.

You don't want to be the one to blow the fuse lol
I would see if it has the same wattage or something like that as a shaver.
But if you do bring one, you don't want room service to find it.

Ruchel

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 2:14 pm

Is there a microwave? If yes, ready dishes

amother

DarkPurple

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 2:14 pm

amother OP wrote:

None at all unfortunately

Would they heat the airline type meals if you brought them yourselves?

amother

Amethyst

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 2:32 pm

When I went to Acapulco many years ago, we ordered many meals (from Chap a Nosh) to be frozen and double wrapped in aluminum. The hotel had a big oven and we had them heated up a few hours before each meal. We also left them, with a tape seal, in their industrial freezer. The meals were great. I guess you need to bring plastic forks and knives.

amother

Starflower

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 2:52 pm

Op you mentioned that u don’t think u hold of double wrapping and heating in their oven. Can u ask a rav? Bec Halachically I can’t see a reason this wouldn’t work.
And yes maybe I’m making very broad assumptions, but anyone I know that would hold so stringently on this kind of thing wouldn’t be going anywhere near a cruise

ra_mom

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 3:53 pm

amother OP wrote:

Any ideas welcome!

Are you allowed to bring raw meats?

Will they give you fridge/freezer space?

Will they will provide you with fresh whole raw fruits, whole raw veggies, raw eggs, raw salmon fish (which you can see is kosher)?

Since you mentioned that you can't cook in your room with an electric appliance, do you hold that you can bring your own frying pan and they can give you fresh salmon, which you'll season and put in the frying pan and ask them to sear for you while you watch, after you turn on the flame?

While I wait for your answers, in the meantime, I'll post non-perishable ideas. Many of these ideas need boiling water, which is easy. Bring along a plug in instant hot water device for traveling.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.....psc=1

Non Refrigerator Accompaniments:
-Meal Mart Amazing Meals are shelf stable and they are double sealed (you leave the box closed) so you can have the staff microwave your meal and remind them not to unbox or unwrap (like when you get airline meals that they microwave for you double sealed in a treif micro, and you get it still with double seal hashgacha)

-Box of minute rice
-Ramen noodles packets or individual cups
-Idahoan instant mashed potatoes
-Instant oatmeal packets
-Bulgur (can also be made instant)
-Mediterranean couscous (boiling water)
-Rice noodles (made with boiling water)
-Tuna pouches (the flat light packets)
-Tuna steak (in the rectangle pop-top cans)
-Chickpea pouches
-Chestnut pouches
-Mayo (mini packets)
-Ketchup (mini packets)
-Oh Snap pickled veggie packets (green beans, snap peas, carrots, pickles)
-Peanut butter and hazelnut spread
-Shelf stable hummus
-Beef jerky
-Beef jerky sticks
-Aged dried salami
-Cereal
-Powdered milk
-Coffee
-Sugar packets
-Olive oil (only if you're checking in luggage and can bring liquids)
-Salt, pepper, garlic powder
-Crackers, breadsticks, rice cakes
-Filling nutrient rich snacks like chocolate fig truffles
-Natural dried fruit leather
-Nosh, pretzels
-Kind bars/granola bars
-Protein bars
-Nuts
-Chocolate
-Fruit cups
-Raisin pouches
-Date pouches (you can stuff them with dried salami before eating if you'd like)
-Applesauce squeeze pouches
-Vegetable puree squeeze pouches (you can pour into cup, add water, garlic and salt, heat with the insertion heater, and enjoy a tasty soup)

Ziploc of cooked pasta or whole boiled potatoes (won't need refrigeration as you'll use this the first day - use as is or make potato salad or pasta salad when you get there). Have some more fresh food that stays good at least 24 hours for first day or so like hard boiled eggs, string cheese, cheese snack, frozen meat and tuna sandwiches.

If you can bring refrigerated/freezer items:
-Tuv Tam double sealed frozen meals
-Mendelsohn double sealed frozen meals
-Vacuum packed cold cuts: sliced pastrami, turkey, turkey pastrami, big chunk of turkey to cut into cubes for over salad, etc.
-Hod Golan turkey cabanossi (ready to eat sausages)
-Aaron's shwarma turkey legs (cold ready to eat vacuum packed)
-Cheeses, all sorts (individually packaged stays freshest)
-Feta cheese, vacuum packed and since it's brine saved for later in trip for good salad or sandwich
-Yogurt pouches (so they don't pop)
-Cheese snacks
-YoBars
-Hard boiled eggs
-Lox slices, vacuum packed

If it's not too heavy and you're willing to bring cans you can add
-Stuffed grape leaves
-Grilled eggplant

You can make warm ramen noodles and top with cubed turkey.
Warm bulgar made into a tabouli salad with your own chopped veggies, topped with chickpeas for protein.
Sliced shwarma in pita with hummus and pickles.
If you have raw eggs, delicious soft boiled in a hot noodle soup cup.
Pastrami sandwiches on bread, baguettes, wraps that are very preserved (by brands that last a week or two).
Avocado (from the ship) that you mash and season).
Breakfasts can be cereal and reconstituted milk, and whole fruit from the ship.

Supplies:
-Instant water boiler
-Real knife for salads (if you can put this check in luggage - find out)
-Container for instant side dishes made with boiling water
-Plates, Bowls, Cups, Forks, Spoons, Knives, Napkins, Paper towels (see what they'll have in terms of paper goods vs real China)

Also ask about drinks

*You do have to realize that cruises are all about food. So make sure you're up to seeing 6 dining halls throughout the ship with extra extravagant spreads all day, every day, while you eat microwave meals.

**Ask your rav to clarify why you can eat kosher airline meals but can't eat same on cruise ship.

Last edited by ra_mom on Mon, Jun 17 2024, 11:28 pm; edited 1 time in total

amother

Snowflake

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 6:09 pm

amother Starflower wrote:

This. You order frozen double wrapped meals, keep on their freezer, and put in their oven to warm. Theres absolutely no kashrus problem with this.

Bring disposable cutlery and tablecloths.

I have never gone on a cruise but have done this at hotels.

amother

Bellflower

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 6:17 pm

Didn't read others so might be repeating but here's some ideas:

- Tuna wraps vegetables, avacadoes.
- Different salads with protein e.g salad with tuna on top, salmon, chicken slices
- Chicken pitas, fill with different salads, hummus and chicken
- Deli meats wraps
- Cold Pasta and tuna salad
- Seseme noodles salad with cold salmon
- Burger buns, cold burgers, veggies etc.
- Sushi salad/Poke bowls love to make this for supper
- then there's noodle soups of all shapes and styles 🫣
Look on kosher.com for more protien salad ideas..
Hatzlocha!

amother

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 8:35 pm

ra_mom wrote:

Are you allowed to bring raw meats?

Will they give you fridge/freezer space?

Will they will provide you with fresh whole raw fruits, whole raw veggies, raw eggs, raw salmon fish (which you can see is kosher)?

Since you mentioned that you can't cook in your room with an electric appliance, do you hold that you can bring your own frying pan and they can give you fresh salmon, which you'll season and put in the frying pan and ask them to sear for you while you watch, after you turn on the flame?

While I wait for your answers, in the meantime, I'll post non-perishable ideas. Many of these ideas need boiling water, which is easy. Bring along a plug in instant hot water device for traveling.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.....psc=1

Non Refrigerator Accompaniments:
-Meal Mart Amazing Meals are shelf stable and they are double sealed (you leave the box closed) so you can have the staff microwave your meal and remind them not to unbox or unwrap (like when you get airline meals that they microwave for you double sealed in a treif micro, and you get it still with double seal hashgacha)

-Box of minute rice
-Ramen noodles packets or individual cups
-Idahoan instant mashed potatoes
-Instant oatmeal packets
-Bulgur (can also be made instant)
-Tuna pouches (the flat light packets)
-Tuna steak (in the rectangle pop-top cans)
-Chickpea pouches
-Chestnut pouches
-Mayo (mini packets)
-Ketchup (mini packets)
-Oh Snap pickled veggie packets (green beans, snap peas, carrots, pickles)
-Peanut butter and hazelnut spread
-Shelf stable hummus
-Beef jerky
-Beef jerky sticks
-Aged dried salami
-Cereal
-Powdered milk
-Coffee
-Sugar packets
-Olive oil (only if you're checking in luggage and can bring liquids)
-Salt, pepper, garlic powder
-Crackers, breadsticks, rice cakes
-Filling nutrient rich snacks like chocolate fig truffles
-Natural dried fruit leather
-Nosh, pretzels
-Kind bars/granola bars
-Protein bars
-Nuts
-Chocolate
-Fruit cups
-Raisin pouches
-Date pouches (you can stuff them with dried salami before eating if you'd like)
-Applesauce squeeze pouches
-Vegetable puree squeeze pouches (you can pour into cup, add water, garlic and salt, heat with the insertion heater, and enjoy a tasty soup)

Ziploc of cooked pasta or whole boiled potatoes (won't need refrigeration as you'll use this the first day - use as is or make potato salad or pasta salad when you get there). Have some more fresh food that stays good at least 24 hours for first day or so like hard boiled eggs, string cheese, cheese snack, frozen meat and tuna sandwiches.

If you can bring refrigerated/freezer items:
-Tuv Tam double sealed frozen meals
-Mendelsohn double sealed frozen meals
-Vacuum packed cold cuts: sliced pastrami, turkey, turkey pastrami, big chunk of turkey to cut into cubes for over salad, etc.
-Hod Golan turkey cabanossi (ready to eat sausages)
-Aaron's shwarma turkey legs (cold ready to eat vacuum packed)
-Cheeses, all sorts (individually packaged stays freshest)
-Feta cheese, vacuum packed and since it's brine saved for later in trip for good salad or sandwich
-Yogurt pouches (so they don't pop)
-Cheese snacks
-YoBars
-Hard boiled eggs
-Lox slices, vacuum packed

If it's not too heavy and you're willing to bring cans you can add
-Stuffed grape leaves
-Grilled eggplant

You can make warm ramen noodles and top with cubed turkey.
Warm bulgar made into a tabouli salad with your own chopped veggies, topped with chickpeas for protein.
Sliced shwarma in pita with hummus and pickles.
If you have raw eggs, delicious soft boiled in a hot noodle soup cup.
Pastrami sandwiches on bread, baguettes, wraps that are very preserved (by brands that last a week or two).
Avocado (from the ship) that you mash and season).
Breakfasts can be cereal and reconstituted milk, and whole fruit from the ship.

Supplies:
-Instant water boiler
-Real knife for salads (if you can put this check in luggage - find out)
-Container for instant side dishes made with boiling water
-Plates, Bowls, Cups, Forks, Spoons, Knives, Napkins, Paper towels (see what they'll have in terms of paper goods vs real China)

Also ask about drinks

*You do have to realize that cruises are all about food. So make sure you're up to seeing 6 dining halls throughout the ship with extra extravagant spreads all day, every day, while you eat microwave meals.

**Ask your rav to clarify why you can eat kosher airline meals but can't eat same on cruise ship.

I apologize to everyone that I can’t respond to all posts but this one is a goldmine! Thank you so much for all the ideas and the wealth of information here. So so appreciated.

Have fridge, no freezer. Bringing our own frying pan for salmon is a great idea- I will find out about this.
I will also look into raw fruits but I assume so.
Thank you again!

amother

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 8:36 pm

amother Bellflower wrote:

Thank you! Great ideas!

amother

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 8:38 pm

amother Starflower wrote:

Why?

amother

Stoneblue

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 9:14 pm

Are you going on Royal Caribbean?

amother

Mayflower

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 9:17 pm

Is this vacation even fun?

amother

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 9:38 pm

amother Stoneblue wrote:

Are you going on Royal Caribbean?

No, they do offer kosher airline meals I believe

amother

Clear

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 9:43 pm

amother OP wrote:

No, they do offer kosher airline meals I believe

Then why drive yourself crazy bringing food that needs preparation.

You will have access to fresh fruit and you can ask the kitchen to give you uncut fruit for things like melon or pineapple.

You probably wouldn't use their dairy products but you can bring your own snacks so you have something to nosh.

amother

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 9:44 pm

amother Clear wrote:

I’m not quite sure I understand? I am not going on royal Caribbean and therefore not receiving the airline packaged meals

amother

Tuberose

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 11:12 pm

Years ago when I was in camp we used a clothing iron to make grilled panini. We wrapped the bread and cheese in parchment paper and ironed on both sides. TMI

amother

Tuberose

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 11:14 pm

Dairy blintzes can be eaten cold.
Meat/chicken salads are cold food.

amother

Springgreen

Mon, Jun 17 2024, 11:24 pm

amother OP wrote:

Why?

Have you ever been on a cruise? I went on a frum one and I was really unimpressed. It was frum people and low class white people. They're dining all day, going to bars and shows and racy comedy at night (I went to a comedy show and went to the musical Cats like 4 times there) and generally lounging around in swimwear. I'm not the most frum person but honestly never again. I couldn't believe it was a "kosher" cruise and all these rabbis are on it.

Ruchel

Tue, Jun 18 2024, 6:27 am

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