Tired of junk food in schools rant

amother

↑ Banana ↓

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 4:42 pm

amother Cognac wrote:

We always did a half slice of challah and grape juice for shabbos party at school.

Reading that other post, it's clear teachers don't know how else to manage their classrooms so they do candy. The principals needs to do a better job to mentor.

Like I posted above.
Shabbos tatty brought grape juice (we add water) and chips the mommy brought a healthy snack and a fruit like bananas or apples to cut up/oranges.

Birthday bags have usually a toy a chip and wafter.
Farbreingens are for special days like a rebbes and rebbetzen birthday and yartzei. Where they got a small cupcake with sprinkles and grape juice with added water.

amother

↑ Tanzanite ↓

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 4:58 pm

amother OP wrote:

Yup my daughter is in a Boro park mainstream Chassidish school and this is actually extremely accurate sadly. It's just not ok Nd we should not stay quiet. The end of the year they cram in 8 bday parties in 2 weeks and a siyum for something else every min. They made every kid bring a nosh in for a different ABC so that means they got 24 different nosh in 1 bag at one party!!

Just wait until you have boys and they start getting soda cans every other day and rebbi raffles off danishes and big bars of clics chocolate. And the nosh they get in shul every week... It's endless 😞

amother

↑ Tanzanite ↓

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 4:59 pm

amother Brickred wrote:

Lol when I opened this thread I thought it would be about the garbage that the school serves for lunch. Maybe I'll start a spinoff.

There was recently a thread about it. https://www.imamother.com/foru.....59024

Trademark

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 5:11 pm

amother Peach wrote:

Exactly. You’ll find as much support for this as you will for caring for the environment (not using disposables etc). Sadly most of the posters here can’t be bothered

I don't think it's sad.

It's a different mentality. I think many in our communities are not very uptight and pretty easygoing. They don't stress about every little decision to make sure everything they do has the most optimal outcome.

Do I think some people are too easygoing? Yes, but most times it's a wonderful thing.

tulip3

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 5:18 pm

Trademark wrote:

They're chilled because they don't realize about the silent diabetes epidemic in the frum community. It's not a good kind of chilled....

amother

↑ Tanzanite ↓

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 5:36 pm

tulip3 wrote:

They're chilled because they don't realize about the silent diabetes epidemic in the frum community. It's not a good kind of chilled....

It's not just diabetes down the road. It's already affecting our kids in some very real ways right now. And cavities are the least of it.

amother

Apricot

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 5:51 pm

amother Cognac wrote:

I am a principal of a small school. I have so much respect for one of our parents, a mother, who is a registered dietitian. Unlike heath "coaches" or "nutritionists", she went to school and got a masters in the field and truly knows what she's doing.

She has never uttered a peep about what her daughter's teachers give out and the opposite, she has participated as a sponsor for rosh chodesh treats many times, always bringing the typical treats that the kids love.

I've asked her about it and her response is so healthy in my opinion. She wants her daughter to have the typical school experience and develop a healthy relationship with food. Nothing is toxic or poison. She allows her daughter to eat whatever she wants in school and accounts for it as she menu plans for the rest of the week. Her daughter has her gushers or ice pop or donut but she, unlike the kids who clearly are forbidden to eat it, stops at one. You can always tell who has a mother who restricts the kids to an obsessive level (NOT saying OP does), because those are the kids who beg for more and even grab when they think no one is looking.

So I also am the same. But I still don’t think the school needs to give so much/often.

amother

Aqua

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 5:57 pm

amother Poinsettia wrote:

You all sound so extreme. Let a kid enjoy their slush.

It’s not just the slush
First of all the size is huge
Then on top of that candies cakes and soda
I understand it’s the cheapest that kids would respond to excitedly. And don’t get me started with all the msg they bring from home.
It gets really bad at the end of the year.

Why not just give each child a 5lb bag of sugar and call it a day .

amother

↑ OP ↓

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 6:38 pm

amother Brickred wrote:

Lol when I opened this thread I thought it would be about the garbage that the school serves for lunch. Maybe I'll start a spinoff.

It is another very important issue! The schools don't serve nutritious food. When I was young the schools gave vegetable soup and rice now they get pizza rolls pasta fries and hot dogs

amother

↑ OP

Fri, Jun 07 2024, 6:41 pm

Trademark wrote:

It's naïveté or ignorance

smushymushy

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 12:21 am

Ok I'm totally with you... Sad

((((
Also in BP and makes me so so upset this whole junk business.
I find it absolutely ridiculous.
Where I grew up no nosh was allowed in school at all. On rosh chodesh we were all allowed to bring in one nosh for ourselves.
No giving out nash all day from the teachers at all.

I get so anxious every time I think about what's given in school... And how it could be affecting my kids health .. all the sugar,corn syrup, food coloring, oil, additives..... But I just tell myself that if I can do something about it - then great (iyH next year I'll planning on speaking to the mothers of the my kids class and the teachers and making some sort of agreement together...
I'm happy to buy healthy treats for the class

And whatever I can't take care of then just to trust in Hahsem, that He'll take care of my kids... He loves them just as much as me and also wants to them to be healthy

amother

Taupe ↓

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 12:25 am

amother OP wrote:

I am SO tired of the mainstream frum schools giving our little children junk food and candy at every opportunity . I am a health conscious mom and it's painful and extremely infuriating.
Shabbos party, abc party, this siyum and that siyum, this yom tov and that one. At one point I sent a healthier nosh bag to school for the teacher to give my daughter that wasn't as bad as their junk but of course there is only so much I can do. It's frustrating because my daughter wants to be like everyone else but their standards are not acceptable and then they wonder why all the children are adhd and have trouble focusing and need Ritalin! For this alone I would love to pull my daughter out and work on a homeschool coop with like minded parents. But that is something I would need a community for and I don't think there is one in the chassidish world...

I barely give out in my class.
I wish others would do the same.
Praise and recognition work wonders in place of point systems and prizes instead of food when needed.
Treats happen once in a while

amother

↑ Taupe

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 12:31 am

amother Tanzanite wrote:

Yes there are so many "better" options out there these days, the toxic stuff is completely unnecessary. And you're right it's a huge issue, and we need systemic change, and so many kids would be helped if they had a cleaner diet.

My kids are older than yours and I've just about given up the fight. And no, they're not "just fine". It's a sad reality.

The worse options are the cheapest, sadly. I 'feel' it every time I buy stuff because I do not buy the cheaper garbage and it would make my life easier in the pocket if I could bring myself to. Yet I don't hold that value in my home and won't bring it into the classroom

↑ patzer

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 12:48 am

amother OP wrote:

It is another very important issue! The schools don't serve nutritious food. When I was young the schools gave vegetable soup and rice now they get pizza rolls pasta fries and hot dogs

I've seen worse!
Waffles and pancake syrup for lunch.

amother

↑ Banana ↓

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 9:45 am

amother Tanzanite wrote:

Which neighborhood do you live in?
My brothers would come home every other day with a soda can sometimes like 5+ danishes ,donuts gift card for the donut or bagel store.

amother

↑ Tanzanite ↓

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 10:17 am

amother Banana wrote:

Which neighborhood do you live in?
My brothers would come home every other day with a soda can sometimes like 5+ danishes ,donuts gift card for the donut or bagel store.

Lakewood

amother

Lawngreen

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 10:42 am

amother Tanzanite wrote:

Imamother tends to skew a certain way when it comes to natural health related topics. You will find a lot more sympathy and understanding on platforms with more like-minded people.

Imamother imas fail to understand the level of junk food that we live with and its repercussions.

Not one public school or charter school would ever give a fraction of the candy that our kids are inundated with.

And this is a futile conversation here because most people say chill were all ok.
Right adhd, add, mental disorders, learning disabilities, Strept, pandas and all that stuff our kids constantly get is normal and ok.

amother

↑ Tanzanite

Sun, Jun 09 2024, 11:11 am

amother Lawngreen wrote:

I think even those that do fail to make the connection between what their children are eating and their overall health.

I see in my circles, even the parents that care, it's because too many cavities. Some complain their kids get hyper. It's a very superficial understanding of what ultra processed food does to the gut and the damage that comes from that, and so it seems not worth it to fight it much.