Pathchy hentalach (different version?) pls help

amother

Maize

Tue, May 28 2024, 3:39 am

teachkids wrote:

As a non Yiddish speaker I’m so curious what all these different versions mean

We always sang

Patchy patchy hentalach, Mommy koifen shichalach, tatty koifen zakalach, in Chani geit voken.

(Clap clap hands. Mommy buys shoes. Tatty buys socks. And Chani will walk.)

↑ teachkids

Tue, May 28 2024, 4:09 am

amother Maize wrote:

We always sang

Patchy patchy hentalach, Mommy koifen shichalach, tatty koifen zakalach, in Chani geit voken.

(Clap clap hands. Mommy buys shoes. Tatty buys socks. And Chani will walk.)

Thank you!

↑ B'Syata D'Shmya

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:10 am

Im seeing many variations:
https://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=4837

But none mentions panties which I doubt is a yiddish word. OP your friends version is her own.

OP I know everyone here is telling you what an amazing chessed you are doing but please keep your radar up. Especially as you have written that you avoid confrontation and this woman is older than you, doesnt listen to you etc.

amother

Aubergine

Tue, May 28 2024, 5:44 pm

The version my Bubby (and I am a Bubby now) sang was:
Patchee, patchee kichelach- mommy koifen shichalech, tatty koifin zekelach.----------- (fill in name)
hauben roite bekalach- (Note: and child's cheeks were pinched at the end of this rendition!!!)

amother

Seafoam

Tue, May 28 2024, 5:55 pm

It's so interesting reading everyone's version. Our goes like this,
"Patchy patchy hentelach, Mommy koifen shichelach, Tatty koifen shtrimpelech, for ______'s feeselech.

amother

Pistachio

Tue, May 28 2024, 6:02 pm

Patchy patchy hentelach,
Mommy shtiken shtripalach (knit socks)
, Tatty koifen shichelach
for ______'s feeselech.

MIT sheechalach vest dee gein (with your shoes you will go)
In cheder areien (into cheder)

amother

DarkMagenta

Tue, May 28 2024, 6:38 pm

Totally off topic but does anyone else sing “toppy toppy hentelech” instead of potchy potchy?

amother

Lightyellow

Tue, May 28 2024, 6:48 pm

It's not implausible that she thought those are the real lyrics. Yes, it's a bit weird, and there is the obvious creepy interpretation. But getting underwear instead of diapers is a big deal for toddlers, and people have all kinds of potty training songs. ("Panties" is not a Yiddish word, but a lot of Yiddish speakers do use it.)

amother

NeonYellow

Tue, May 28 2024, 6:55 pm

There is no mitzva to invite a creep into your home.
She sounds like a creep. No one sings mommys buying underwear songs to babies.
Nice of all of you to judge favorably but I think you're being naive.

amother

Red

Tue, May 28 2024, 7:46 pm

amother DarkMagenta wrote:

Totally off topic but does anyone else sing “toppy toppy hentelech” instead of potchy potchy?

Sounds like the type of song that developed form a toddler mispronouncing the words

amother

NeonBlue ↓

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:00 pm

The version I grew up with is:
Patchy patchy henteleach mommy koifen zekelach tatty koifen shicheleach.

amother

↑ NeonBlue ↓

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:15 pm

sequoia wrote:

Is that like the frum version of Miss Susie?

Different tune.

amother

↑ NeonBlue ↓

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:17 pm

amother Trillium wrote:

I remember mommy baken kichelech, tatty koifen shichelech! (Does that mean mommy bakes cakes and daddy buys shoes?)

But I’m not a Yiddish speaker and this was taught to me by a great aunt!

Yes. But specifically kichelach are bow tie cookies. (Like those sugar stuff made into a bow tie you get at the bakery)

amother

Burlywood

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:29 pm

Our version was
Patchy Patchy hentelach
Mommy koifen shichalach
Tatty koifen zakalach
_____ geit tzi cheder'l
Shpielen mit di yingilach.

Not chassidish, don't speak much Yiddish, but grew up on this and sing to my kids too

amother

Melon

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:44 pm

Is it possible that she actually said candies and your son didn't hear it right?

amother

↑ NeonBlue

Tue, May 28 2024, 8:45 pm

amother Melon wrote:

Is it possible that she actually said candies and your son didn't hear it right?

But how would he know the word panties ?

amother

Gladiolus

Tue, May 28 2024, 9:09 pm

amother Lightyellow wrote:

My first thought was this, maybe her mother sang it as a toioet training song. My grandmother said they were trained in the high chair (at about a year old).
As the poster who asked about toppy toppy hentelach, I had a grandmother that sang that version. Maybe it was more Hungarian or German....
Funny how so many of us grew up with this song. Who was the composer? A shared grandmother!?

amother

Steelblue

Tue, May 28 2024, 9:11 pm

Our version was like this.
Patchy patchy feesalech
Mammy koyfen sheechalech
Tatty koyfen zukalech
Far —— pitzy feesalech

↑ dena613

Tue, May 28 2024, 9:23 pm

I find it so amusing to see how many versions you can have of a nursery rhyme!

amother

↑ OP

Tue, May 28 2024, 10:09 pm

Thank you all for the wonderful advice and input.

I found it cool to see how many different versions (wording) there are to this song!

OK, so this woman is really complex. She's distantly related to us. She comes over claiming to "help" around the house. I think (hope) she means well, but does things that make me crazy.

After my csection I was on the couch with the footrest up, dozing. She came up and started massaging my feet. I was so shocked that I woke up and immediately recoiled. She got insulted and retorted "well your feet smelled anyways but I was just trying to be nice..." very very awkward moment.

Then another time she overheard how I was trying to lose weight (was discussing with my friend while she was hanging around) and now she's constantly making comments " oohh you must be starving yourself you look skinnier. Are you taking the shot?"

I don't mind discussing weight in general. But it just feels invasive when someone is listening into my conversations and then making comments and assumptions.

Im sorry for this vent... I just feel a little lost since she's really much older than me and I want to be respectful (also she had a very tough life,from what I understand... So I want to be ultra sensitive to her in general...)

PS, I heard her saying panties myself, so it wasn't my son mishearing her. She giggles when she says it because it's kind of a joke to her I think. Like, she kind of gets a kick out of it.

But this isn't the only weird word she uses around my kids. She doesnt say "poop" she says c*ck. As in "does your son c*ck in the toilet yet" (while he was being toilet trained). I get that in some circles it's widely accepted to say c*cky/pishy when referring to #1 and #2 so I really can't fault her. But I really do find it odd and kind of... Icky? It's a word I'd personally never ever use... I think it's maybe a generational thing.

Overall, it's been about a day since I made the original post so and DS hasn't repeated the word "panties" so I'm just rally grateful and happy this is probably nothing/ all forgotten...!