Really don't want to vaccinate my kid

↑ heidi

Tue, May 07 2024, 8:26 am

#BestBubby wrote:

Heidi, if measles turned healthy children into vegetables it would be all over the news.

Can you link to a news article?

They're patients
Not news articles

amother

Yarrow ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 9:02 am

#BestBubby wrote:

Heidi, 1 in 36 children has Autism Spectrum Disorder

In addition to millions of children with epilepsy, speech delays. Allergies (can be fatal), diabetes, ADHD, etc.

The vaccines are way more dangerous than measles

None of these things has ever been tied to vaccines.
In communities where no vaccinations are given there is still autism and allergies and diabetes and adhd. Even in the shtetl your ancestors probably had adhd. It didn’t have an official name but I guarantee you it existed. And so did allergies and diabetes. Difference is people just died. Like if a person ate a peanut and got an allergic reaction and died you might not have known it ws from a peanut. So cause of death was drowning or not waking up or whatever they were doing last.

amother

NeonPink ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 9:41 am

amother Yarrow wrote:

Not at the rates were seeing today. Vaccines aren't the only cause, but they are contributing to the rapid rise in incidence.

And there *is* evidence they're linked.

Hep b and autism https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21058170/

Vaccines and adhd temporal correlation https://www.frontiersin.org/jo...../full

Aluminum in vaccines and asthma https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36180331/

Mmr and increased atopic dermatitis (eczema) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14690341/

And there are many, many more published pieces.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 9:41 am

heidi wrote:

They're patients
Not news articles

Covid deaths were in all the newspapers.

If one baby 6,000 miles away in Israel was hospitalized for measles (no permanent damage) it was in newspapers all over the world.

https://www.israelnationalnews.....77988
Above article, 5 children diagnosed with measles, all doing well, that's a news article!

And you expect us to believe that two American babies became permanent vegetables from measles and that was not in the newspapers???

Don't believe it.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 9:48 am

amother Yarrow wrote:

Yes, all those diseases correlate to vaccines.

It is warned on the vaccine inserts.

There is a vaccine court that paid $4 billion for vaccine injured children.

Yarrow, what is the RATE of autism between vaccinated and unvaccinated?

↑ Ema of 5 ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 9:57 am

#BestBubby wrote:

But if vaccines CAUSED these things, wouldn’t there be more children with issues, considering how many children are vaccinated?

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:00 am

amother Silver wrote:

So don't. If you don't want to follow the school rules, then find a school who won't care. But don't lie and said you did.

You can't lie.

Your doctor has to send your child's vaccine records, they don't take the parents word.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:06 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

But if vaccines CAUSED these things, wouldn’t there be more children with issues, considering how many children are vaccinated?

According to some studies, 40% of american children have a chronic disease.

That's extremely high.

↑ Ema of 5 ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:20 am

#BestBubby wrote:

According to some studies, 40% of american children have a chronic disease.

That's extremely high.

According to Andrew Wakefield’s study, the mmr causes autism. Only it was a lie, and the info was false. Are these studies dependable?
What else can be a factor in this number? Could it be the way people eat, the abundance of garbage in people’s diets? Is the single thing causing these numbers vaccinations? Do other countries have similar vaccination rates and chronic illness numbers?

amother

↑ NeonPink ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:22 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

But if vaccines CAUSED these things, wouldn’t there be more children with issues, considering how many children are vaccinated?

That's not how causes work. It's doesn't cause these things 100% of the time, but it can.

Just like not everyone that smokes gets lung cancer, and not everyone that got covid got pneumonia.

It's always a confluence of factors, with lifestyle and genes playing a role as well.

amother

↑ NeonPink ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:24 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

His study actually didn't prove that. He showed traces of attenuated vaccine strain measles in the guts of children with autism.

As I said above, vaccines aren't the only factor. There are others as well.

↑ Ema of 5

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:25 am

amother NeonPink wrote:

Right, but if the vaccine was the cause, the numbers would be higher. As you say, it’s a confluence of factors, including lifestyle and genes.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:31 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

Right, but if the vaccine was the cause, the numbers would be higher. As you say, it’s a confluence of factors, including lifestyle and genes.

1 in 36 children with ASD is not high enough for you???

What was the ASD rate 20 years ago?

amother

↑ Yarrow ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:33 am

#BestBubby wrote:

1 in 36 children with ASD is not high enough for you???

What was the ASD rate 20 years ago?

It was the same. Not as many were diagnosed and the classifications were different. Everyone had that awkward cousin or uncle that you knew was different but never was officially diagnosed. Tongue Out

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:34 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

Wakefield study did NOT say MMR causes autism.

amother

↑ Yarrow ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 10:34 am

#BestBubby wrote:

According to some studies, 40% of american children have a chronic disease.

That's extremely high.

According to some. Not a reliable statement.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 11:13 am

https://www.cdc.gov/healthysch.....s.htm

Above link, the CDC says more than 40% of American children have at least one chronic disease.

Yarrow, Do you trust the CDC ?

You trust the CDC vaccine schedule.

amother

↑ NeonPink ↓

Tue, May 07 2024, 11:13 am

Ema of 5 wrote:

Right, but if the vaccine was the cause, the numbers would be higher. As you say, it’s a confluence of factors, including lifestyle and genes.

And for some, vaccines may be a trigger as well.