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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:15 am
dena613 wrote:
Okay I googled
Thank you for reigniting my love of learning

Chabad.org has a list of some converts you should know LOL

some I knew some I didn't
Here are ones not yet mentioned on this thread

Basya
Rachav
Ovadia
Shmaya and avtalyon (possibly just descending from geirim)
Ben Bag Bag and Ben hey hey*
Heleni hamalka
Munbaz hamelech (her son)

*Super interesting. I'm copying from Chabad.org:
In the generation following Shemayah and Avtalyon, we find another pair of converts known as Ben Bag Bag and Ben Hay Hay. Presumably because of the danger involved in converting to Judaism at the time, their names were actually codes for their real identities. Hay is the Hebrew letter that was added to the names of both Abraham and Sarah. Thus ben [“son of”] hay hay hints to the convert’s status as a child of Abraham and Sarah. Bag bag takes the code one step further, since bag is spelled beit and gimmel, which together have the same numerical value as hay. 16 Alternatively, Bag Bag may be an acronym for ben geir, uben giyoret (“the son of a convert and a convertess”). Whatever the reason for his name, Rabbi Yochanan ben Bag Bag was known to be fluent in all areas of the Torah,17 and Ben Hay Hay was known to converse with Hillel.18


This list basically covers all those I thought of and more!
Thanks for the bag bag and hey hey lesson,

Question to b.chadash: you wrote up thread that Hamans sons converted. I thought they were all hung. Can you clarify?
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:16 am
dena613 wrote:
Coat 1 chana and 2 Yaakov
Lama nigara 1 those who carried atzmos yosef 2 ?
Donkeys went stray I think shaul
Cows were "going and lowing" in story when the aron was taken by plishtim


Correct about the coat: Yaakov made the kesones Pasim for Yosef. Chana made a me'il for her son every year.

Incorrect about lama Nigara.

Donkey who went astray, I was thinking of both Bilam and the donkeys of Kish.

Correct about the Cows. In Shmuel Aleph.
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:18 am
effess wrote:
This list basically covers all those I thought of and more!
Thanks for the bag bag and hey hey lesson,

Question to b.chadash: you wrote up thread that Hamans sons converted. I thought they were all hung. Can you clarify?


Ten were hung.
I'm not sure how to clarify, but I remember hearing that the sons of haman converted and learn in Bnei Brak. ?
Look, he had 210 sons. So some of them converted...I'll see if I can find a source.

Eta. Ok. I found it. It's in Gittin daf 57.


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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:18 am
b.chadash wrote:
Correct!
I thought of another answer for sword.
Vecharbo shelufa beyado. Know where that's from?


Ooooh the passuk is so familiar. It's bothering me. Gotta think. Somehow I'm picturing a malach (???) And also the words netuyah al Yerushalayim (???!!)
Don't tell me yet (someone else can solve though)

Here's another cherev
Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches. I'm sure you know that one.
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  LiLIsraeli  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:19 am
b.chadash wrote:
This is exactly what my son said (except he said "married". He's only 9.)
Do you have a source?


The Midrash Says quotes it from a midrash brought down by Rabeinu Bechayai at the end of Parshas Chukas.
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  GLUE  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:19 am
b.chadash wrote:
Hmm. The thing with the raven sounds familiar. Something about being intimate. Also the dog.
I think 3 were intimate in the teiva- the raven, the dog and Cham. Correct?


That's what I heard.
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:21 am
b.chadash wrote:
Correct about the coat: Yaakov made the kesones Pasim for Yosef. Chana made a me'il for her son every year.

Incorrect about lama Nigara.

Donkey who went astray, I was thinking of both Bilam and the donkeys of Kish.

Correct about the Cows. In Shmuel Aleph.


Lama nigara was for Pesach sheni. Why are you saying it’s incorrect about atzmod Yosef . Wasn’t that the reason they couldn’t bring the korbon?
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:21 am
b.chadash wrote:
Correct about the coat: Yaakov made the kesones Pasim for Yosef. Chana made a me'il for her son every year.

Incorrect about lama Nigara.

Donkey who went astray, I was thinking of both Bilam and the donkeys of Kish.

Correct about the Cows. In Shmuel Aleph.


Grrr with lama nigara
One of my kids had it last year... Maybe bnos tzelafchad? That's a guess
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:22 am
effess wrote:
Lama nigara was for Pesach sheni. Why are you saying it’s incorrect about atzmod Yosef . Wasn’t that the reason they couldn’t bring the korbon?


Thank you!! That's what I meant.
The shittah that those who couldn't bring korban pesach was due to tumah from carrying atzmos yosef
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:22 am
dena613 wrote:
Ooooh the passuk is so familiar. It's bothering me. Gotta think. Somehow I'm picturing a malach (???) And also the words netuyah al Yerushalayim (???!!)
Don't tell me yet (someone else can solve though)

Here's another cherev
Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches. I'm sure you know that one.


That's at the entrance of gehinom?
You're right about the malach, but wrong about netuyah al Yerushalayim.
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:22 am
LiLIsraeli wrote:
The Midrash Says quotes it from a midrash brought down by Rabeinu Bechayai at the end of Parshas Chukas.


Thanks!
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  LiLIsraeli  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:23 am
dena613 wrote:
Ooooh the passuk is so familiar. It's bothering me. Gotta think. Somehow I'm picturing a malach (???) And also the words netuyah al Yerushalayim (???!!)
Don't tell me yet (someone else can solve though)

Here's another cherev
Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches. I'm sure you know that one.


Charbo shelufah b'yado - is that from Bil'am when the donkey saw the malach? Or a similar story from sefer Yehoshua?

Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches - is that what Adam saw at the entrance to gan eden after the cheit?
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  effess  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:23 am
List all the dreamers!
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  LiLIsraeli




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:24 am
effess wrote:
List all the dreamers!


There are 10 dreams in sefer bereishis alone - can anyone name them?
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  GLUE  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:25 am
effess wrote:
List all the dreamers!


I only know 3

Yaakov
Yosif
Daniel

I forgot Parho who else?

Thanks LiLIsraeli now I remember
The Bread baker and the wine purer and there are more people in Sefor Daniel put I can't remember who.


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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:26 am
effess wrote:
Lama nigara was for Pesach sheni. Why are you saying it’s incorrect about atzmod Yosef . Wasn’t that the reason they couldn’t bring the korbon?


I stand corrected.
I was thinking only of the two groups people who said it, not the why.
1. The people who couldn't bring the korban Pesach
2. The bnos Tzelaphchad.

I always found this interesting. I never saw anyone bring a correlation between the two, but I think there must be something to it that both of these groups use the same lashon.
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:27 am
LiLIsraeli wrote:
Charbo shelufah b'yado - is that from Bil'am when the donkey saw the malach? Or a similar story from sefer Yehoshua?

Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches - is that what Adam saw at the entrance to gan eden after the cheit?


I was thinking of Bilaam.
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:28 am
LiLIsraeli wrote:
Charbo shelufah b'yado - is that from Bil'am when the donkey saw the malach? Or a similar story from sefer Yehoshua?

Lahat cherev hamis'hapeches - is that what Adam saw at the entrance to gan eden after the cheit?


Yes it was malach with bilaam!!
Yes
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  b.chadash  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:28 am
GLUE wrote:
I only know 3

Yaakov
Yosif
Daniel

I forgot Parho who else?

The Sar Hamashkim and Sar haofim
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  dena613  




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Oct 24 2023, 12:29 am
LiLIsraeli wrote:
There are 10 dreams in sefer bereishis alone - can anyone name them?


Yaakov dream with ladder
Yosef had 2
Paroh had 2
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