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amother
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 8:01 am
IY”H Moshiach comes now!!!!
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 10:14 am
amother Pansy wrote: | Those are sad stories, but how can you prove it was the covid vaccine? Old people have strokes all the time. Many things cause total body pain. I know people who don’t vaccinate for anything and have health issues. I’m sorry you’re in pain and looking for answers. |
Here we go again.
This is why I brought numbers from the numbers man, Ed Dowd. He looks at DATA and brings it to you. Not anecdotal stories about people who dropped dead shortly after they were jabbed. He brings the CEO of American One (insurance company) that saw a HUGE surge in deaths and disability. This is not about causation and correlation. This is about numbers.
Secondly, Pfizer has a very, very, very long list of side effects in their own report on their own vaccine. Things that include Bells Palsy (Justin Bieber, anyone?), The horrible degenerative disease that Celine Dion is suffering from, shingles and so many more. It's all written write there in their own document. So noone has to prove any correlation. Pfizer themselves wrote it down, black on white.
Also, have you noticed how many performers have been falling down and collapsing and/or dropping dead ON STAGE, during their performances? Or are those clips the ones you avoid watching, in case it reminds you...
Thank you for caring. I am neither in pain nor looking for answers. I am sorry YOU are not looking for answers. Because it means that the next time another shot comes around you may be first on line to take it. And that would be a shame.
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 10:43 am
Today's tweet from Ed Dowd (the numbers man)
Totally normal 🤡
Ethical Skeptic ☀
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Wonder Week 24 2023 update.
Sudden Cardiac Death Mortality in younger persons grew from 24.8% to 28.2% excess from wk 20 to 24 of 2023.
Whatever this is, it's not going away - killing more young people per week than Covid did at its absolute peak.
No overdoses in this data.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 2:22 pm
ChossidMom wrote: | My kids and I know quite a few. My upstairs neighbor's brother in law was found dead in his car in the neighborhood. 50 yrs old. Vaccinated and active Zaka and Hatzolah volunteer. |
My dad dropped dead 45 years ago at 33 guess it was the vaccine.
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 3:34 pm
Rav Chaim Kanievsky said to do it.
we did
im not going to think into it. We did what we were supposed to at the time.
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Butterfly
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 6:11 pm
My husband got covid for the very first time last yr Nov of 2022, 9 weeks after he received his second vaccine... Thankfully I listened to our primary physician who recommended to both of us not to take it even though we were both in fairly good health at the time bH.
My DH, being the fearful type went along with the vax hype and took the vaccines..
Today he regrets it big time.
He became a total different person since. He's been suffering several different kinds of ailments including chronic fatigue syndrome. He was strong as a bear before all this. The vaccines had extreme negative affects on him.
We visited the biggest Neurologist in Columbia Presbyterian hospital because of his severe headaches. The doctor confirmed that the vaccines have killed many of his acquaintances. He mentioned the name of a popular ball player, 28 years of age (don't remember his name.. I don't watch sports..) who suddenly dropped dead after taking the vaccine. It was confirmed that it was due to the vaccine!
I told him that I didn't take the vaccines due to my doc's recommendation.
He commented; "Smart woman" As a Dr in the hospital he was forced to take it and felt a part of himself dying after each vax.
Thank you CM for bringing this important subject to the forefront here at Imamother and enlightening the many who are so oblivious to this important matter.
You are one very special person.
Regardless of the critique you are receiving from so many you continue your holy task of trying to help your fellow Imamother's, (and assumingly outside of Imamother as well) by gathering so much important information regarding this critical issue and bringing it forth to the public. Hashem should bless you with the best of both worlds.
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amother
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 7:11 pm
My friends uncle took the first vax and had a bad reaction. His doctor convinced him to take the second and he had a heart attack and died.
My former neighbor, yeshiva magid shiur, took one vaccine and had a stroke. The hospital forced the second and he had another stroke and isn’t here anymore.
My coworkers spouse took the vaccine, got turbo cancer and isn’t here anymore. He heard that there were many others with turbo cancer in the community who are keeping it secret.
A local hatzala paramedic has said he’s seen an increase in yene machla in my city since the vaccine. Most were vaccinated and are not telling their friends or extended family. He’s been quite busy doing house calls for these people.
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 11:39 pm
amother Seashell wrote: | Rav Chaim Kanievsky said to do it.
we did
im not going to think into it. We did what we were supposed to at the time. |
We all did the best we could with the tools we had at the time.
Now is the time to have more awareness and understand more.
I have changed completely over the past 3 years. I am alot less naive than I was 3 years ago. Alot.
That's how life is. Things happen, we learn from them, come to new insights and build a better toolkit. Awareness is being half the way there.
I also have much more awareness of the politics that go on in various rabbinical courts here in Israel. Very often we hear the gatekeepers' voices instead of the gadol's.
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ChossidMom
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 11:43 pm
Two more of my personal stories:
My friend from Far Rockaway's uncle dropped dead right after one of his boosters.
My husband's first cousin got turbo cancer and died. The family is still reeling from this. She was completely healthy. She was part of a chassidus that pushed the shots and was trying to convince her unjabbed siblings to take it. She cared.
The thing with these "turbo cancers" is that in the old days, you would hear ch"v that someone was sick and you could daven for them for years (unless it was in the pancreas which was always sort of a "death sentence"). Today, people are diagnosed and GONE within weeks or months. I had never witnessed this before. Currently, I hear about at least one death of a young person (forties, fifties) from turbo cancer EVERY DAY. And, the brave and unafraid doctors talk about seeing so much more cancer now. Also the statistics show this.
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Trademark
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 11:49 pm
Anecdotal evidence for the other side: most of my community vaccinated and that don't know anyone who dropped dead BH!
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Wed, Jul 12 2023, 11:54 pm
Trademark wrote: | Anecdotal evidence for the other side: most of my community vaccinated and that don't know anyone who dropped dead BH! |
Baruch Hashem!!!
Not everyone got the same thing. Different batches were different.
Here is a website where you can check your batch and how many people died from it.
It was found that there were areas where more people died, lo aleinu.
https://howbad.info/
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 12:03 am
Dr. James Thorp, Ob/Gyn of 44 years (and brave, brave man)
https://twitter.com/jathorpmfm.....?s=20
James Thorp MD
@jathorpmfm
My 44 years of Ob experience and my vast published experience (221 articles, including 48 on COVID-related topics) allow me to be certain. I am willing to bet my life on it and I offered to debate anyone in the world for the last 3 years. NOBODY to date has the ethical, moral, and intellectual integrity to debate me.
Pushing the Lethal mRNA vaccines in my pregnant patients constitutes the GREATEST violation of ETHICS in the history of humanity. The danger signals emanating from the VAERS and a myriad of other sources globally are unprecedented. The danger signals from my VAST experience of seeing nearly 27,500 patients in the last 4.5 years are unprecedented.
The Medical Industrial Complex #HHS #CDC #FDA #ABOG #ACOG #SMFM are all corrupt to the core as are their journals. They are likely bribed by the $13 Billion dispensed by Mark Weber Dep Sec HHS through the newly created COVID-19 Community Corp (CCC) in March 2021. They targeted about 300 "influencers" with the stated purpose of eliminating vaccine hesitancy by a $13 Billion bribe with a contract they would PUSH the lockstep narrative of HHS/CDC.
The American College of ObGyn (ACOG) was a founding member and have taken vast amounts of bribe monies (> $11M) from CCC not allowing them to deviate from the deadly HHS/CDC narrative. I have been honored and awarded by ACOG ABOG & SMFM (Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine), I served on the Board of Directors for SMFM. I testified in US Senate TWICE. The HHS CDC ACOG FOIA of 1400 pages are PROOF of this lethal & unprecedented PSYOPS campaign.
What has changed? NOBODY in the ENTIRE WORLD would have condoned pushing a highly novel experimental gene therapy in pregnancy 10 years ago and it would have been considered malpractice and may have resulted in criminal charges likely including jail time. It would’ve been considered patently absurd. Yet the band plays on. Not egregious enough? The Pfizer 3.5.6 internal document 2.28.2021 reported 1223 deaths just after less than 10 weeks of the rollout - the most lethal medical intervention EVER. This was buried and Pfizer attempted to hide this for 75 years.
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 1:46 am
amother Royalblue wrote: | It's not necessarily the vaccine but it's definitely a new reality since Covid. There's an unprecedented number of people dying suddenly and many many people with new sudden medical issues. |
This. Why blame the vaccine. I know many who were suddenly ill after covid. And since the Vax didn't protect against covid, many of them died from from covid
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Jewishmom8
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 1:57 am
amother Seashell wrote: | Rav Chaim Kanievsky said to do it.
we did
im not going to think into it. We did what we were supposed to at the time. |
my understanding at that time was that you could do it not that you should. (my husband and I both took it).
and he NEVER said to give it to children or teens.
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 4:06 am
amother Mistyrose wrote: | This. Why blame the vaccine. I know many who were suddenly ill after covid. And since the Vax didn't protect against covid, many of them died from from covid |
The vaccine caused people to get Covid.
Anecdotally - I know many people who got Covid right after they took one of the boosters. Off the top of my head - a friend of mine in my neighborhood took number 4 and immediately got Covid.
Also, if I remember correctly, Rabbi Abraham Twerski z"l was taken down by Covid shortly after a booster.
The Cleveland Clinic has a peer reviewed study which showed that you were way more likely to catch Covid if you are vaccinated.
Here you go:
'Devastating' Cleveland Clinic Study Reveals More COVID Vax Doses = MORE COVID
"Cleveland Clinic is rated the number two hospital in the world. And so, when a study comes out of Cleveland Clinic, people take it very seriously," explained Steve Kirsch. "And this study was devastating for the vaccine."
What they found was that people who took four doses or more were about 3.5 TIMES more likely to be infected with COVID than unvaccinated individuals.
You can read the study here: https://www.medrxiv.org/conten.....ll#T2
Full Interview: https://bit.ly/ET-Steve-Kirsch
Follow @VigilantFox 🦊
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amother
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 6:53 am
Trademark wrote: | Anecdotal evidence for the other side: most of my community vaccinated and that don't know anyone who dropped dead BH! |
Exactly what I wrote. How is it possible we don't know anybody who dropped dead from vaccine??!; Serious question.
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amother
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 7:34 am
amother Cobalt wrote: | Exactly what I wrote. How is it possible we don't know anybody who dropped dead from vaccine??!; Serious question. |
I think it’s because we’re thinking with our heads and they’re thinking with their hearts. Yes, it’s sad and tragic when people die and even more so when people die young. People in pain don’t think rationally and look for answers. As soon as they find something that to them sounds plausible they grab it. Combine that with being able to find anything you want to online and it makes a perfect storm. It used to be tabloids were only in the supermarket. Now they’re everywhere.
Also some people live in sheltered communities where certain things aren’t discussed and real words aren’t used. Like the word cancer is not said, only the word machala. Less information causes disinformation.
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Diamond
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 7:48 am
I think people OD on prescription pills these days. Easier to blame what we see though.
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amother
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 7:49 am
amother Diamond wrote: | I think people OD on prescription pills these days. Easier to blame what we see though. |
That too.
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Butterfly
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Thu, Jul 13 2023, 9:37 am
ChossidMom wrote: | The vaccine caused people to get Covid.
Anecdotally - I know many people who got Covid right after they took one of the boosters.
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I know of a chushiva man who got Covid after taking his second vaccine. He didn't have to wait for the booster shot for it to happen. That was my DH.
He got such a severe case of Covid that he nearly passed on.
Thankfully with the help of Hashem the Hatzallah guys arranged to have him injected with the Monoclonal Antibodies treatment via intravenous which surely saved his life. No doubt!
DH's doctor agreed that he may have contracted Covid due to the vaccines he took.
Hodu LaShem he is alive and well, yet far from the same person he was prior to the injections / covid..
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