What do you tip instacart

amother

↑ Melon ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 10:53 am

amother Periwinkle wrote:

That figure is not possible since there is no salary paid to Instacart workers so how could they make $13 per hour if they are only guaranteed $7 for shopping an order.

It is not possible to shop two orders and deliver them in one hour. Think about the time it takes to park; to get the items; to pay for the items; to load them in your car; to drive to the customer and then to unload the order AND then even if they immediately got a new batch they would have to drive to the store to start the process over again.

It is ONLY in a very few states that Instacart was forced to pay minimum wage for hours worked.

The batch fee is only part of their pay. The actual pay factors in things like order size, bulky items, distance from store etc.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:00 am

amother Melon wrote:

The batch fee is only part of their pay. The actual pay factors in things like order size, bulky items, distance from store etc.

All of those factors are not very much and are only for extremes like multiple cases of water.

Again I am sorry if I am generous and you are cheap and attempting to justify your cheapness by providing figures that don't actually reflect the earnings of an Instacart delivery person.

I don't drive for them - no one I know drives for them. I use their services.

I don't use services that I can't afford including tipping the people providing those services.

When I started using instacart I spent time actually learning about the fee structure and how they are compensated because I wanted to tip the Instacart Shoppers fairly.

I don't attempt to justify exploiting low paid workers because 'tipping" them makes it "expensive"

Tipping is a significant factor for an Instacart worker just as tipping is a significant factor for a waiter or other service provider.

OP asked whether 5% is adequate. The reality is that it isn't nor is 10%.

If an order costs $200 that would be $10 - think about the time and effort it takes to shop for $200 worth of groceries and deliver them? Do you really think that is fair compensation?

amother

Peru

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:01 am

I don’t use instacart but I don’t do my own shopping either. I get orders delivered from different stores. They (the stores) have a delivery fee which has gotten quite high so very often I don’t tip anymore. I used to always tip when delivery was free but if I’m already paying anywhere between $5-$10 for delivery then I’m really not inclined to tip as well.
Also about making a chilul Hashem, I’m not sure that the delivery people from instacart know how much each person tips at the time of delivery.

amother

↑ Melon ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:04 am

The numbers I gave are from an independent site geared to workers considering different gig opportunities. I have no reason to doubt their honesty when they tell me that pay is about $13/hour before tips.

As I said I don't use Instacart myself, but I don't see not tipping as the selfish and cheap behavior you consider it.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:05 am

amother Peru wrote:

Yes they certainly do know how much each person tips.

In fact they know how much you tip when they take an order - if it is multiple orders in a batch they don't know the breakdown of how much each person tipped until they have completed deliveries.

Again I am not sure how you justify not tipping a person because you can't afford the service.

And differentiate between someone shopping and delivering and someone just delivering.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:10 am

amother Melon wrote:

Do you considering stiffing your waiter, taxi driver, manicurist or other service person to be cheap and selfish or do you also consider tipping them to be "optional'.

As I posted, knowing the economics of how Instacart workers are paid, it is not possible for them to get $13 per hour except in California where they are required by a recent law to pay at least minimum wage for hours actually worked.

Keep in mind that they only get paid when they actually have an order to fulfill so they can sit in a slow market and make nothing at all so it isn't even that they are actually "guaranteed" $13 per hour if they spend 8 hours on the App trying to get batches.

Doordash or similar are much easier because all they have to do is pick up a bag of food and drop it off and even the cheapest people generally tip at least $5 or more for a pizza which takes much less time and much less effort.

amother

↑ Melon ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:22 am

amother Periwinkle wrote:

I don't use waiters, manicurists, or Instacart. I very rarely use taxis or Uber. I don't have skin in this game.

I quoted from a website made for Instacart workers, not Instacart users. I'm not sure why you're positive that your information is more reliable.

amother

Birch ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:40 am

I must tip Uber/ Uber eats?
I can't really afford without the tip and only use rarely, is tip really required?
Especially for Uber driver where the fee for the ride itself is usually more than a local car service would charge, or at least the same.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 11:55 am

amother Birch wrote:

Yes tips are the expectation for Uber just as tips are the expectation for cab drivers or other drivers. Why would you think that was not so? You would also tip a local car service

And the delivery people for Uber eats and similar services should also tipped just as you tip the person who delivers pizza. All of these people rely on tips just as a waiter relies on tips.

The factor with Instacart is that they also perform significantly more services since they also shop and so it is egregious to cheat them by not tipping and to justify the lack of tip or meager tip by saying that the service is expensive. That is like going into an elegant expensive restaurant and not tipping because the food is expensive.

And please don’t attempt to justify by saying the kosher restaurants have mandatory tips because that is not the norm for restaurants in the USA where tips are theoretically optional but everyone knows that it is completely disgusting to not tip at least 15%with 20% actually being the norm.

I am surprised people are so unaware of standard tipping etiquette in the USA.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 12:19 pm

From a recent article in New York Magazine on tipping etiquette in the tristate area

Should I tip Uber drivers and cabs?

Tip Uber drivers the same way you’d tip a cabdriver — at least 20 percent. The Uber app can make adding a tip feel like an afterthought, but it shouldn’t be. According to new data from the Taxi & Limousine Commission, Uber drivers earn substantially less in fares and tips than taxi drivers (plus Uber takes more than a 25 percent cut of fares).

How much should I tip for food delivery?

For food delivery, tip a minimum of $5, or 20 percent, whichever is greater, and even more in bad weather. Because delivery workers are categorized as independent contractors, their employers don’t have to pay them minimum wage. And per a recent survey from the Worker’s Justice Project and the Worker Institute at Cornell, the median hourly wage for app delivery workers in New York is only $7.94 an hour, or $12.21 with tips.

amother

↑ Birch ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 2:33 pm

amother Periwinkle wrote:

I just realized this is under lakewood. In Brooklyn it is definitely not the norm to tip local car service. Unless there was something unusual or extraordinary.
Not familiar with yellow cabs.

amother

↑ Birch ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 2:40 pm

amother Periwinkle wrote:

And the delivery people for Uber eats and similar services should also tipped just as you tip the person who delivers pizza. All of these people rely on tips just as a waiter relies on tips.

I am genuinely asking.
Growing up and after marriage neither dh or I had pizza delivered, until Uber eats came around. How exactly should I know?
I do know to tip at restaurants.

amother

↑ Birch ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 2:41 pm

amother Periwinkle wrote:

TY this is helpful.

amother

Blushpink ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 6:20 pm

If I have five extra dollars I use it to pay the electric bill. Tip extra when you can and when you cannot…we’ll remember two things.

1- the meaning of the word ‘tip’
2- choice. Insta/Uber/shipt shoppers chose to do this.

amother

↑ Blushpink ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 6:41 pm

amother Cerulean wrote:

I don’t really understand- why do I have to research how much my shipt shopper gets paid. It’s shipts
Job to pay their workers fairly if they want to keep them employed-isn’t it?

That’s true.

There is a mehalach ha’olam. If you can afford to tip, the non Jewish shopper will look upon us more favorably.

That having been said, if you cannot, let GOD look at you favorably because you chose to spend your money taking care of what is important.

MHO.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 6:43 pm

amother Cerulean wrote:

I don’t really understand- why do I have to research how much my shipt shopper gets paid. It’s shipts
Job to pay their workers fairly if they want to keep them employed-isn’t it?

Well theoretically but in the USA we have a tipping economy in which employers don’t have to pay minimum wages because the expectation is that they will be piped as part of the compensation.

If you eat at a restaurant don’t you tip the waiter even though they are employed by the restaurant.

Delivery people are not generally employees but are independent contractors who are not guaranteed any minimum wage per hour worked.

People seem to want to justify their exploiting poorly people workers with very entitled justifications that these services are expensive and therefore they shouldn’t have to pay for the services.

I don’t understand how people are so deliberately mean spirited and in denial that their actions are selfish.

For me, the tip is part of the cost of the service 🤷‍♀️

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 6:45 pm

amother Blushpink wrote:

If you can’t afford the service, shlep it home yourself. 🤷‍♀️🤔 and don’t tell yourself that you are being looked upon favorably for being wise about how you spend your money.

amother

↑ Blushpink ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 6:57 pm

amother Periwinkle wrote:

If you can’t afford the service, shlep it home yourself. 🤷‍♀️🤔 and don’t tell yourself that you are being looked upon favorably for being wise about how you spend your money.

I would do many things myself which I outsource to others if I could pull it off.

Asgain, I’d rather give my children that extra piece of chicken or beef or pay back the debt then pay a larger tip than necessary.

Please understand that sending people on a guilt trip isn’t correct or fair.

If you have the cash please tip. If you don’t, just give .50 and know you did the right thing.

amother

↑ Periwinkle ↓

Sun, Feb 19 2023, 7:12 pm

amother Blushpink wrote:

I don’t understand how you can justify cheating a worker. Essentially you are stealing their services by not tipping adequately because tips are part of their compensation.

Do you eat at a restaurant and not tip the waiter because you want to use that money for something else. After all using your logic, you are entitled to do so since you don’t want to cook the food yourself and want to “outsource” it

That is the part I don’t understand unless you feel justified stealing other stuff because you can’t afford to buy them.

Sorry if pointing out that you are being cheap at the expense of another worker is making you feel guilty. 🤔🤔🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ You should feel guilty for using services you don’t want to pay an appropriate amount for