Chossidmom's Spam Thread of Covid Vaccine Info - welcome

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 12:06 am

What Pfizer, J&J COVID Vaccine Animal Trials Reveal About Shots’ Potential Impact on Major Organs • Children's Health Defense
https://childrenshealthdefense.....f3392
From the above article:
“The records also show that Johnson & Johnson, as part of its submission to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for approval of its COVID-19 vaccine, did not include studies of the spike protein encoded in the J&J vaccine.”

amother

Crystal

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 12:19 am

Take a chill pill. We can listen to you vent. I had covid 3 times and am post transplant on high dose immune suppressants. God wanted me to live. My coworker perfectly healthy died within 4 hours of symptoms. They're no proof either way.

The strain everyone has now is a Simple COLD. My friends medically fragile on a vent child was hospitalized for precaution and sailed through. Hospitals are not seeing very sick dying people like first wave.
Do as you wish.
Everyone will follow their heart at end of day.

amother

↑ Gladiolus ↓

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 8:34 am

Not everyone can take a chill pill and follow their heart when there are mandates

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 8:56 am

amother [ Gladiolus ] wrote:

Not everyone can take a chill pill and follow their heart when there are mandates

True. And the problem with this whole last two years is that people followed their hearts. They were scared stiff from the constant fear mongering generated by the government via the media. People were petrified and THEN Moshiach came in the form of a "vaccine". Most of the people followed their hearts and took the shots. Why did this even become a question for a rav? We didn't feel we had to ask our rebbe. We looked into it and researched it. But first and foremost we KNEW that it was new technology and there was ZERO safety data on it. That alone was enough to make us understand we had to wait. But people followed their hearts which were full of fear.

↑ #BestBubby ↓

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 10:29 am

amother [ Crocus ] wrote:

Why would you trust a doctor like this? If he'll lie for you, why wouldn't he lie TO you?

Please delete my quote.

Thank u

amother

↑ Molasses ↓

Wed, Jul 20 2022, 3:54 pm

[Comments inspired by reading BW's latest post about how KH& LJ are going to be appealing. Which name works best? ChiNY/ NYina / Chin York / New China?]

So.. I saw a huge rainbow the other day. Hashem still loves us.

I love this thread ChossidMom, its nice to not have all the bickering here. It was a great idea. Its like a safe space for the red pilled and the curious.

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Thu, Jul 21 2022, 5:19 pm

Unreported Truths

No, mRNA Covid vaccines do not offer long-term protection from serious illnessData from the Dutch government show the opposite - after seven months they substantially RAISE the risk of hospitalization and intensive care

Alex Berenson

3 hr ago

mRNA vaccine advocates have one final defense against the failure of their billion-person experiment.

Okay, the shots won’t stop you from getting Covid. Or spreading it. Or having symptoms.

But they will stop you from getting very sick, and that protection lasts long after they stop working against infection.

Only it doesn’t.

Not against Omicron, anyway. And Omicron is only variant that matters now, since it’s the only variant that exists now.

An official government report from the Netherlands earlier this month has the truth.

On July 5, the RIVM - a research institute that is part of the Dutch Ministry of Health - reported a basic two-dose Covid vaccination offered no protection against Covid hospitalization. Worse, vaccinated people were 20 percent more likely to need intensive care than the unvaccinated.

“There was hardly any visible protective effect of the COVID-19 basic vaccination series against hospital and ICU - intensive care- intake,” the researchers wrote (understating the case).

SOURCE

The topline figures are bad enough.

The report is based on hospitalizations across the Netherlands from March 15 through June 28, not a small sample. And like the United States, the Dutch relied overwhelmingly on mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna - the supposed gold standard for Covid shots.

But the details in the report are even more disturbing.

The researchers stratified the risks of hospitalization and intensive care by time from vaccination and the age of the infected person - and those show that the risks increase over time.

After seven months, vaccinated people in their fifties and sixties had a 68 percent higher risk of being hospitalized for Covid compared to the unvaccinated. They had a 41 percent higher risk of needing intensive care.

The trends were similar for people 70 and over, though most of them had been boosted or received a fourth shot, so comparisons were harder to make.

(Negative vaccine effectiveness, it’s a thing. A very bad thing.)

Again, this negative effectiveness is against severe disease - hospitalizations and intensive care.

Not infection, severe disease.

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The report also showed that boosters and fourth shots did reverse the negative efficacy against hospitalization and intensive care and provide some protection. That fact led the researchers to call for vaccinated people to receive boosters.

But the effectiveness of boosters and fourth shots against severe disease also sharply and quickly declined.

In people 70 and over, the effectiveness of a booster against hospitalization fell from 85 percent in the first month to under 50 percent by five months out. The trends for the fourth shot were similar, but worse. Though the researchers did not have five months of data for the fourth shot, by roughly three months, protection had fallen to 60 percent.

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The results could not be clearer, or grimmer.

The mRNA vaccines fail within a few months and then begin to raise the risk of serious outcomes.

Why?

The promise that the mRNA shots will produce durable T-cell protection against severe disease appears faulty. Any protection the shots offer against hospitalization or death probably results from their antibody-driven protection against infection, which lasts only a few months.

Repeated shots can reverse the trend, but they too fail, and each additional shot appears to do less and fail more quickly. Worst of all, because the shots cause recipients to produce antibodies to the original coronavirus rather than Omicron’s mutated spike, vaccinated people now have a higher risk of Omicron infection - which means they have a higher risk of hospitalization or death.

Worst of all, the Dutch collected this data during the spring, when the existing Omicron subvariant was relatively mild. Now Omicron has mutated again, and we do not at this point know if the new variant is more or less dangerous.

But the trends from countries like New Zealand - which are test cases for Omicron’s potential virulence because they are highly mRNA vaccinated and have little preexisting natural immunity - are not promising.

Buckle up.

amother

↑ Molasses ↓

Thu, Jul 21 2022, 6:34 pm

Real data, solid - for children ages 5-11

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 6:32 am

https://viralimmunologist.subs.....eived
Of 29 Pregnant Women That Had Received Pfizer's COVID-19 Inoculation, Only One Had a Baby That Lived
I Am In Shock

Dr. Byram W. Bridle
Jul 22
The United States Food and Drug Administration (US-FDA) had requested 75 years to release the documents that they reviewed from Pfizer prior to issuing emergency use authorization for the Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b mRNA ‘vaccine’ (Comirnaty) against SARS-CoV-2, which can cause COVID-19. However, a judge over-ruled this and issued a court order that the documents be released in large monthly installments. Today, an absolutely shocking set of data were brought to my attention. They are not new. They are from a document that was in the data dump released back in May of this year. However, I want to help my fellow scientists in making sure that this science gets widely distributed throughout the world. This is for the sake of ‘fully informed consent’, something that regulatory agencies, public health officials and too many physicians seem to have abandoned over the past couple of years.

For a long time I have been arguing that our children need to be left out of the massive conflicts over the science underpinning COVID-19. In my opinion, adults can conduct their own risk-benefit analyses regarding whether they want to receive one of the current COVID-19 inoculations. However, far too many adults are making these decisions based on pseudo-science, data from flawed studies, misinformation, and outright disinformation being propagated by physicians and public health officials, many of whom are unqualified to opine on anything in the field of vaccinology. I have never felt comfortable about these injections being used in ‘children, adolescents and young-adults of child-bearing age’. This was the precise terminology I used in a parent’s guide to COVID-19 vaccines that I wrote more than one year ago.

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The highest quality data for assessing a novel medical product are derived from clinical studies. This is because these types of experiments in people are typically well-controlled and include what is known as ‘active monitoring’; there is follow-up to assess safety and efficacy. This is why the clinical testing phases should never be compromised. With this in mind, let’s explore a stunning set of data that Pfizer provided to the US-FDA. Here is the relevant document… (Can't attach the pdf here but I can send it to you or you can go here: https://viralimmunologist.subs.....idmom)

The data in this document were accumulated up until February 28, 2021. Notably, on page 9, safety concerns based on the US Pharmacovigilance Plan included “missing information” on “Use in Pregnancy and lactation”. The data that had accumulated up to the end of February, 2021 were from too small of a sample size (I.e., # of pregnant or lactating women) to justify its use in these populations. However, here are the data that were available at that time regarding outcomes in pregnant women that had received Pfizer’s COVID-19 inoculation; this is quoted from the top of table 6 (I have italicized and/or bolded the most important points)…

Pregnancy cases: 274 cases including:

• 270 mother cases and 4 foetus/baby cases representing 270 unique pregnancies (the 4 foetus/baby cases were linked to 3 mother cases; 1 mother case involved twins).

• Pregnancy outcomes for the 270 pregnancies were reported as spontaneous abortion (23), outcome pending (5), premature birth with neonatal death, spontaneous abortion with intrauterine death (2 each), spontaneous abortion with neonatal death, and normal outcome (1 each). No outcome was provided for 238 pregnancies (note that 2 different outcomes were reported for each twin, and both were counted).

Apparently, outcomes will never be known for 88% (238/270) of the pregnancies. Why was the follow-up rate on these cases so abysmal?

NutriTruth has a great graph on their website that summarizes the results from cases for which follow-up data were available…

It appears that data would be available for five of the pregnancies, but these outcomes were still unknown at the time that Pfizer’s document was written. As such, there are solid data available from 29 pregnancies. One out of 29 of these pregnancies resulted in a ‘normal’ outcome. This means that 28 out of the 29 babies died! That is a 97% death rate. I don’t care which trustworthy data set you look at to determine a ‘background’ death rate, none of them come close to 97%. Spontaneous abortions are more common than many people appreciate, but, again, they are nowhere near the rate in this study. Even in the case of the ‘normal outcome’, this means there was an apparently healthy baby. However, one cannot be certain that the outcome was ‘normal’, until the baby has had all of their physiological systems fully mature, which means early adulthood.

I have looked at Pfizer’s pre-clinical reproductive toxicity data and they are fatally flawed. Issues included ‘vaccinating’ the females only; apparently it was forgotten that ‘it takes two to tango’. Also, the rodent models that were used express the low-affinity version of the receptor for the spike protein encoded by the ‘vaccines’. People express the high-affinity receptor. This means the rodent models aren’t capable of revealing toxicities that might be associated with the spike protein. In short, the pre-clinical studies could provide no assurance whatsoever that Pfizer’s vaccine would be safe in the context of pregnancy. Now there is proof that data were in the hands of regulatory agencies that suggested the potential for a 97% fatality rate for babies from ‘vaccinated’ women.

I have collaborated with scientists and physicians about the post-rollout ‘real-world’ studies on pregnancy and the COVID-19 shots. They are highly flawed. I co-authored a paper about this, but have yet to find an editor that will even allow it to undergo peer review (I have had no problems with this for any of my cancer- or basic virology-focused papers). Regardless, many other reputable scientists and physicians have been addressing this. Further, these ‘real-world’ studies should never have been authorized based on the data presented here.

Many countries have pushed Pfizer’s COVID-19 ‘vaccine’ on pregnant women, often via mandates. This was been done with the full blessing of their societies for obstetrics and gynecology. Are obstetricians and gynecologists going to continue to make these recommendations with these data in-hand? At the end of the day, couples experiencing pregnancies or who wish to do so must make it their own responsibility to educate themselves to facilitate fully informed consent. Too many obstetricians and gynecologists are either too superficially trained in the immunological sub-discipline of vaccinology or are too afraid of contradicting a narrative for which dissent is punished. Some physicians are starting to speak up about this. Unfortunately, their singular personal observations are simply deemed anecdotal. However, as a scientist, I have been trained to observe the cumulative nature of these reports; to not dismiss them out-of-hand, and to use them to formulate legitimate scientific questions.

If you or your baby have experienced any issues post-inoculation, please report these to your physician. They are obligated to submit an adverse event report, without opining on whether or not they think it might or might not be related. The accumulation of these reports is the only way scientists can help identify safety signals during a public rollout of a novel medical product.

A 97% death rate among babies from pregnant mothers that were ‘vaccinated’ is appalling. And this was from Pfizer’s own clinical trial data. This suggests a massive breakdown in the health regulatory process. The public, whom health regulatory agencies are to be serving, should demand accountability from these government-run institutions.

If I were a regulatory scientist assessing the pregnancy outcome data from Pfizer, there is no way that I would ever have supported the use of their inoculation in pregnant women. And I would never have allowed ‘real-world’ data from flawed studies to replace proper pre-clinical and clinical trials. Nor would I remain silent about this knowledge. Regulators who know better need to start speaking up.

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 7:03 am

My last post is by Dr. Byram Bridle. This is who he is:

My name is Dr. Byram Bridle. I am an Associate Professor of Viral Immunology in the Department of Pathobiology at the University of Guelph. I specialize in vaccinology and am also leader of the Vaccine Task Force of the Canadian COVID Care Alliance’s Scientific and Medical Advisory Committee.

I am a public servant who fully comprehends the meaning of servanthood. Taxpayers have invested substantially in my training and they continue to provide much of the operating monies for my academic institution and they pay for much of my salary. Therefore, the primary goal of this newsletter is to provide the public with science-backed information to help dispel the prolific disinformation circulating about COVID-19. I am to do this with integrity.

My research program focuses on the development of vaccines to prevent infectious diseases and treat cancers, as well as studying the body’s immune response to viruses. I teach several courses at the undergraduate and graduate levels on the topics of immunology, virology, and cancer biology. The overall aim of my research efforts is to develop safe and effective new immunotherapies for people. Indeed, one of my previous cancer vaccine strategies progressed into four human clinical trials.

I am also involved in training Canada’s next generation of multidisciplinary researchers, especially in vaccinology. I received funding from the Ontario Government (COVID-19 Rapid Research Fund, Ministry of Colleges and Universities) and the Government of Canada (Pandemic Response Challenge Program, National Research Council of Canada) to conduct pre-clinical research with vaccines against COVID-19. I also hold numerous grants in support of my cancer research and basic viral immunology research programs, including but not limited to the Canadian Institutes for Health Research, Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, Terry Fox Research Institute, Canadian Cancer Society, and Cancer Research Society. I have received numerous teaching and research awards including the prestigious Terry Fox Research Institute’s New Investigator Award and the Zoetis Award for Research Excellence.

I have served as an expert witness for court cases related to the science of COVID-19, including vaccines.

Since the COVID-19 pandemic was declared, I have been actively involved in providing fact-based, balanced, scientific answers to questions posed by the public to help them make fully informed decisions. This has included ~300 media engagements ranging from radio shows, published articles, and appearances on televised news programs, spanning the local to international scope. I have also been an invited keynote speaker at international conferences that focused on COVID-19 and have served as an invited member of numerous COVID-19-focused discussion panels.

Vaccinology is a highly specialized sub-discipline of immunology. I am called upon as an expert in this specialized field to comment on the critical importance of high-quality, well-validated, robustly safety-tested vaccines and I routinely promote their use. I support the concept of vaccine mandates in well-defined scenarios. However, the definition of a vaccine had to be altered to allow the term to be applied to the current COVID-19 inoculations, which do not prevent infection, do not prevent disease (I.e, COVID-19), and do not stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2, which is the causative agent of COVID-19. In stark contrast, historically mandated vaccines, including the childhood series, provide robust, very long-lasting protective immunity. These vaccines confer near-sterilizing immunity, which means that people cannot contract the targeted disease, nor can they transmit the targeted pathogen to others. After receiving these true vaccines, individuals not only do not need to be isolated, masked, or practice physical distancing, they are actively encouraged to interact with others. Further, historically mandated vaccines were assessed for adverse events over long periods of time. The current COVID-19 inoculations had proper safety assessments ended after four months. Notably, the six-month update report provided by Pfizer showed that adverse events were higher in the vaccinated group as compared to the placebo-treated controls, and demonstrated only modest absolute effectiveness against the original variant of SARS-CoV-2. The vaccine failed to reduce COVID-related hospitalizations and deaths and is now outdated and irrelevant in the context of the currently circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2.

Based on hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific publications, it is my professional opinion that the risk-benefit profile of SARS-CoV-2 inoculations currently being used around the world demands that mandates for these vaccines be rescinded to avoid exposing any more people, especially youth, to their enhanced risks.

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 8:14 am

(FYI Deborah Birx was on Trump's team in the White House and she was in charge of the Covid-19 Response. She just published her book where she shamelessly admits to lying about "flattening the curve" and the efficacy of the "vaccines")

From Dr. Paul Alexander's substack:

Birx now Says COVID-19 Vaccines Were Never ‘Going to Protect Against Infection’; this malfeasant said prior to get you to take the vaccine "This is one of the most highly-effective vaccines we have"..
“I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection. And I think we overplayed the vaccines."....what? to say this now?

Dr. Paul Alexander
Jul 24

Her statements drove people to take the jabs, these people used their positions of authority to deceive and lie to people. We fought the likes of her in the White House for she worked with Fauci and CDC and NIH and deepstate bureaucrats to take down a sitting POTUS and if today he can understand it, just how much he was toppled, from inside the house, he can regain the status. It is his continued defense of the lockdowns and vaccines that is damaging to his reputation. I want him to not be damaged.

These people, Fauci, Birx, Francis Collins, Hahn, Walensky, Bourla, Ashish Jha et al., they lie with ease, will sell their mothers for the right price. What dirty rotten liars, the damage Fauci and Birx did with their lockdown lunacy that killed thousands needlessly. Our children committed suicide due to the school closures. What terrible people. There was no basis for anything they did re COVID, every single COVID policy was a lie and all failed! No science to under pin any of it, nothing but power drunk lunatics, making money as we suffered! We must get accountability!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/......html

amother

↑ Gladiolus ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 8:36 am

Beyond evil— feeling really heartsick right now

Again would rather know

The truth is key as we move forward

Hopefully into a better future IY”H

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 8:41 am

Dr. Birx admits she knew the vaccine wouldn't prevent covid: https://rumble.com/v1dfnxh-dr.......html ("I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection")

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 8:46 am

amother [ Gladiolus ] wrote:

Beyond evil— feeling really heartsick right now

Again would rather know

The truth is key as we move forward

Hopefully into a better future IY”H

I agree.

I wonder how it is, though, that people on this site still say that we are spreading "conspiracy theories". I don't get it. So much information is coming out now, from the documents that Pfizer was court ordered to release. It's there in black and white.
And you've got all these awful videos of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab Yimach Shmam Vezichram, talking about how critical it is for the planet to reduce the population by billions. So where exactly does the "theory" part of "conspiracy theory" come into play?
Maybe because reality is just too horrible to contemplate.

↑ ChossidMom ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 4:57 pm

Dr. Elizabeth Mumper, MD on the over 80% miscarriage rates in women who took the shot during pregnancy:
https://rumble.com/v18y2fw-mor......html

amother

↑ Pansy ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 6:31 pm

ChossidMom wrote:

Dr. Elizabeth Mumper, MD on the over 80% miscarriage rates in women who took the shot during pregnancy:
https://rumble.com/v18y2fw-mor......html

I don’t believe this, then on this website alone there would be many people having miscarriages. BH the pregnancy groups are full and not many are leaving.
On the flip side, I know people who miscarried r’l after having covid who were unvaccinated. I don’t know of anyone who miscarried after getting vaccinated. And BH I know lots of people! And people I work with who were pregnant were prioritized to get vaccinated and they all had healthy beautiful children. Some are pregnant again and BH all pregnancies are healthy.

amother

↑ Pansy ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 6:32 pm

And if this were true, than no one would be upset roe was overturned-women would just get vaccinated lol

amother

↑ Molasses ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 6:40 pm

That rate of mis doesn't seem right somehow. Irl it would be too obvious. The frum factories in town would be very in the know if it was scaled that large, they couldnt stick their heads in the sand anymore. In e"y majority took it so wouldn't it come public info? I think they may have interpretted that paper wrong possibly because maybe it was so twisted to begin with. Not saying that it isn't significant. I have access to chevra kadisha info and know that it is extremely affected. But possibly less than that. That number is too up there.

Also here on imamother. A simple yes no poll saying if pregnant when injected did you personally ....yada yada within x time frame. The raw data would have to be significant.

amother

Blonde ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 7:06 pm

I had a mis from covid.
But I did hear of others who had a mis from the vaccine as well.
One woman got both shots and then got COVID, had a mis and was in the icu in critical condition. Her older unvaccinated mom got covid right after and had a mild case.
These cases were posted on a community group.

I haven’t vaccinated and know many in my community who won’t.

amother

↑ Gladiolus ↓

Mon, Jul 25 2022, 7:29 pm

Certainly nothing funny about it we know all too many women who vaxed and miscarried for the first time- causation? Certainly corraletion
Hashem Yishmor