Is Tablet K an acceptable Kosher certification?

rimon613

Thu, Dec 09 2021, 10:53 pm

By Rabbi Saffra

simcha2

Thu, Dec 09 2021, 10:58 pm

No one I know holds by it.
(MO)

eduardo

Thu, Dec 09 2021, 11:00 pm

simcha2 wrote:

No one I know holds by it.
(MO)

Same here..

zaq

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 7:07 am

I believe it is not considered reliable.

singleagain ↓

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 8:38 am

If it's not on the CRC's list of symbols I don't use it
https://www.crcweb.org/agency_list.php

FranticFrummie

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 8:46 am

Even the most LWMO people I know won't take it, and if anyone sees it in your house they won't eat by you anymore.

AFAIK, it's considered a "Conservative hechsher", as in "close enough".

I do not know the rabbi in charge, and I do not want to say anything bad about him personally. I know that kashrut has a lot of politics involved. I don't know if the products are mamash treif, not supervised to Orthodox standards, or what.

I'm just reporting on what I know of community standards. When in doubt, always ask your rabbi and go by the approved list of the Va'ad you hold by.

whewpy

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:20 am

What does this symbol look like?

PinkFridge

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:27 am

whewpy wrote:

What does this symbol look like?

I'm curious too. Clearly not to be confused with Denver's Scroll K.

livinginflatbus

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:28 am

Really ? The Scandinavian jellies from trade j are that hechsher, and my father , who's a posek says it's good .

BrisketBoss

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:29 am

livinginflatbus wrote:

Really ? The Scandinavian jellies from trade j are that hechsher, and my father , who's a posek says it's good .

No, those are Scroll K which is good, not to be confused with Tablet K which is not recommended. They are drawn differently.

I love the Scandinavian Swimmers!

↑ singleagain

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:32 am

whewpy wrote:

What does this symbol look like?

SixOfWands

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 10:36 am

FranticFrummie wrote:

Even the most LWMO people I know won't take it, and if anyone sees it in your house they won't eat by you anymore.

AFAIK, it's considered a "Conservative hechsher", as in "close enough".

No, we don't use Tablet K.

But not because its "Conservative" or because Conservative Jews are somehow lax in kashrut. But because Conservative Jews interpret halacha, particularly halacha regarding cheese, differently.

Rennet traditionally came from the intestines of an animal. Even Orthodox halacha has long held that the amount of animal enzyme required in cheese-making is too miniscule to be considered mixing milk and meat, and allowed the use of cow rennet. The issue is that rennet was often from pigs or other non-kosher animals, or animals not shechted kasher. As a result, they required a Jew to add the rennet, under supervision.

Apparently all hard cheese made in the United States is produced using microbial or plant enzymes, not animal rennet Thus, the Conservative movement, as a whole (remember, they're more centralized than Orthodox) holds that basically all hard cheese is kosher. Tablet-K thus doesn't require a Jew to add the rennet, or it to be added under supervision, so long as the ingredients and the facilities are kosher.

So, long story short, is there anything actually treyf about the cheese? Almost certainly not. Is it acceptable? No.

Lets_Eat_Pie

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 12:06 pm

FYI there are also some Conservative shuls that don't accept this hechsher. Here's one:

https://bethshalomseattle.org/.....hrut/

My childhood Conservative shul didn't, either.

I'm not sure who accepts this hechsher, honestly.

challahchallah

Fri, Dec 10 2021, 5:53 pm

Lets_Eat_Pie wrote:

There are some conservative shuls that don’t accept tablet k, but there are also some that do (including one that some of my extended family go to). Also, Jews are actually only a small part of the market share for kosher products. Some people from other religious groups such as Muslims and Seventh Day Adventists also seek out kosher products. Maybe they use tablet k? This article from star-k has some interesting stats on the US market:
https://www.star-k.org/article.....sher/

chocolate moose

Sat, Dec 11 2021, 7:12 pm