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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:30 am
silverlining3 wrote: | Omg! No no way! Is Josef confirmed????? |
I also saw his name on YWN
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:30 am
Blessing1 wrote: | I mentioned upthread that my friends parents received a call from the hospital that their son was brought in. The boy was together with Tauber, he fell untop of Tauber he heard I'm screaming that he can't breathe & shema yisroel..... it's so heartbreaking š |
I can't š¢ the trauma is going to be HUGE. Hashem please comfort those that were lucky to stay alive. Give them peace of mind. I cannot imagine.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:30 am
Ok, ok...I just read first person accounts on Yeshiva World and someone said that people were screaming and begging and dying and the police just stood and watched and refused to open a blocked entrance which would have released a huge amount of people...I am going from crying to extreme anger, I can't see straight get up and see to my kids...is this cruelty true? Can someone PLEASE help me calm down?
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:34 am
Ima Piano wrote: | I also saw his name on YWN |
And a relative of his doesn't know... Hmmm
It's scary.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:39 am
PurpleandGold wrote: | Ok, ok...I just read first person accounts on Yeshiva World and someone said that people were screaming and begging and dying and the police just stood and watched and refused to open a blocked entrance which would have released a huge amount of people...I am going from crying to extreme anger, I can't see straight get up and see to my kids...is this cruelty true? Can someone PLEASE help me calm down? |
You can see it in the link I posted on page 6 or 7
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:39 am
Oy please donāt jump to the worst conclusions. Many are explaining that there was tremendous confusion about what was actually happening. It was so fast. Itās likely that they were afraid that if they let out a large group out en masse a greater tragedy could have occured RL with a stampede spreading to more parts of the mountain. They were doing their job. They didnāt know right away what was happening. Just daven and accept.
PurpleandGold wrote: | Ok, ok...I just read first person accounts on Yeshiva World and someone said that people were screaming and begging and dying and the police just stood and watched and refused to open a blocked entrance which would have released a huge amount of people...I am going from crying to extreme anger, I can't see straight get up and see to my kids...is this cruelty true? Can someone PLEASE help me calm down? |
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:39 am
I'm supposed to get up for work but I'm just numb
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:42 am
Two american boys still missing
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:42 am
Chickensoupprof wrote: | I find it so horrible I want to enjoy the day of lag baāomer and erev Shabbos but I just canāt Iām still thinking about it. And when I scroll down my feed on social media of newspapers I see people texting things like āwhy sad? They kill Palestinian babies just for fun so Iām not sad for a few dead people thereā ugh š¤¦š¼āāļø |
Something that I'm hearing that's important, IMO, is that it can't be business as usual for us this Lag B'Omer. I haven't brought myself to listen to music yet.
But it's erev Shabbos. You have Shabbos to produce and family to take care of. Do what you need for menuchas hanefesh to do these important functions effectively. I would recommend yes, listen to music but for today, don't read those social media feeds. You won't be able to come up with the proper nusach to make these tools, probably many of them evil tools, rethink their stances. Don't even try today.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:48 am
PurpleandGold wrote: | Ok, ok...I just read first person accounts on Yeshiva World and someone said that people were screaming and begging and dying and the police just stood and watched and refused to open a blocked entrance which would have released a huge amount of people...I am going from crying to extreme anger, I can't see straight get up and see to my kids...is this cruelty true? Can someone PLEASE help me calm down? |
According to what I'm reading from people who were there- a few people fell, so police closed it for a few minutes to help them.
The people in the back just saw it being closed by police but didn't know why.
When they reopened, the people began pushing forward together and people began falling and sliding on top of each other.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:49 am
funfunfun wrote: | Oy please donāt jump to the worst conclusions. Many are explaining that there was tremendous confusion about what was actually happening. It was so fast. Itās likely that they were afraid that if they let out a large group out en masse a greater tragedy could have occured RL with a stampede spreading to more parts of the mountain. They were doing their job. They didnāt know right away what was happening. Just daven and accept.
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This is good advice. Calming down.
Thank you ā¤ļø
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:53 am
SafeAtLast wrote: | According to what I'm reading from people who were there- a few people fell, so police closed it for a few minutes to help them.
The people in the back just saw it being closed by police but didn't know why.
When they reopened, the people began pushing forward together and people began falling and sliding on top of each other. |
That makes sense now, just so much impossible confusion in these situations. Easy for us to judge from the comfort of our homes. I'm sure we understood more from reading social media than many who were there last night, they must have just been so, so confused.
Thank you for giving me clarity. Some things are just meant to be. Hashem, please make the messages from this entire year clear to us...we are ready to hear and return to You, just help us understand what to do...
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:54 am
Come on. Police didnāt literally just watch people die and stand there. Then did CPR? I donāt believe that for a second. Likely as others said it happened so fast it took a couple minutes to realize what was happening.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:56 am
I canāt stop crying.
And yet I need to understand. Iāve been in crowded places. If people start falling and a person nearby falls onto the person next to him, thereās injury but not death. Everyone falls in place. Was it a mountain of people falling downhill so the people on the bottom had many people falling on top of them? I donāt want to look at any photos or videos, Iām still traumatized from people falling or jumping out of the south tower on 9/11.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 8:57 am
TranquilityAndPeace wrote: | I canāt stop crying.
And yet I need to understand. Iāve been in crowded places. If people start falling and a person nearby falls onto the person next to him, thereās injury but not death. Everyone falls in place. Was it a mountain of people falling downhill so the people on the bottom had many people falling on top of them? |
Yes. A ramp collapsed.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 9:09 am
Prime Minister Netanyahu has announced sunday will be a day of mourning for the whole country. Flags will be on half mast, including embassies.
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 9:16 am
my friends son was niftar
so sad....
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 9:20 am
Whereās the hug button? Everyone hugs
Come to think of it...take this away from interesting discussions please!
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Fri, Apr 30 2021, 9:21 am
An American boy who was learning in Yeshivat Sha'alavim is missing.
Please daven for Nachman Daniel ben Miriam Elana
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