I don't find it unrealistic to go to your rosh yeshiva. it can be hard to have access to a gadol esp when it's urgent
The part that's unrealistic is that the Rosh Yeshiva would take upon himself to advise in a matter of life and death. A man in crisis could go to his Rosh yeshiva, who will in turn go to a gadol to ask him how to advise his talmid. (The idea is that the RY probably knows how to access a greater authority.)
You should never know of such things, but when it's truly a matter of life and death, no Rosh Yeshiva would sit back and respond like Rav Soloveitchik did.
(Btw, when I told my husband that Shuli Rand, who plays Rav Soloveitchik, is actually frum in real life, he couldn't believe that a frum person would even play the role of a RY who would be so cavalier with a life and death issue...)
Did anyone else see today's promo? Shulem chasing after Nechama, Kive painting Racheli and seeing Libi in the background, Yossele confessing something to Shira Levinson. I'm getting so nervous that everything is going to fall apart! And it does say the second to last episode so yeah, next week is it.
Next week is it?!
I was so hopeful I was wrong about that.
I'm not nervous everything will fall apart as much as I think they bit off more than they can chew with so many plots and sub-plots. Maybe they want to leave us with a cliffhanger or two so they have all of us waiting on the edge of our seats for season 4?
Anyone else remember all the threads and posts about-
- Will there be a season 3? When will there be season 3? I heard a rumor they're filming season 3. Season 3 is almost here. Where can I watch season 3?
Are we going to have to edit those and change all the 3's to 4's?
Will we have to wait five years?
We're going to have to get Yael to open a support group for Shtisel'istiot suffering from anxiety.
Ok. Did anyone watch this episode?????
All I can say right now is OMG
Incredible.
Loved the symbolism of Kive seeing Libi and Rachelli ushering her out the door. And when he went to the cemetery.
No words.
Poor Shulem is going to be left with his cheesecake. His hubris destroyed him.
Yossele is totally his father. And Ruchomi even looks like her mother.
They have to resolve those 2 plotlines. They can't leave us hanging!!
I can't believe it's almost over!!
Incredible.
Loved the symbolism of Kive seeing Libi and Rachelli ushering her out the door. And when he went to the cemetery.
No words.
Poor Shulem is going to be left with his cheesecake. His hubris destroyed him.
Yossele is totally his father. And Ruchomi even looks like her mother.
They have to resolve those 2 plotlines. They can't leave us hanging!!
I can't believe it's almost over!!
Incredible.
Loved the symbolism of Kive seeing Libi and Rachelli ushering her out the door. And when he went to the cemetery.
No words.
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When Rachelli got up to open the door and let out Libby, my thought was, "wow, she really gets Akiva." They are actually on the same wavelength. Good on Akiva for going to the cemetery and taking leave of Libbi. This type of pain and reluctance of letting go of a beloved dead spouse is all too real.
I think that Nechama is too good for either of these Shtisel brothers. Nuchem is a snake and always was a snake. Although Shulem is more likeable, he is his own worst enemy. As you said, his hubris destroys him. Each time.
And I think Nechama will go her own way.
Yossela may be his father but Gitty is HER father. They both went ballistic when their son wanted to break their shidduch. Remember when Shulem kicked Kive out of the house, throwing his stuff out the door because he broke a shidduch he felt forced into? And now Gitti acts with that same irrational anger- only caring about doing what's "right" rather than listening to her son's feelings for even a second! She is the one who caused this to happen!
Neither Shulem nor Gitty could hear or give credence to their son's feelings.
I recently rewatched an old episode in season one, where Shulem tells Kiva, "You think I ever told your mother 'I love you? You think I ever said those words??"
And now Gitty tells Yossela, "In love? You are a yeshiva bucher. Who ever taught you that word??" Gitty is so manipulative and downright emotionally abusive. This season showcased the worst in her. Whereas in Season One, she was easy to admire, and sympathize with, in the second season and this one even more, she turns arrogant and cruel. Cruel to her kids and cruel to her husband. And to her friend, who came to her at her lowest, most vulnerable point.
I know she acts this way out of fear. But it's still very off-putting.
On the other hand, Lipa (the guy who was a jerk in season one, and to a lesser degree in season 2) comes out looking like a wise, compassionate, and really good person . One who knows how to listen and really hear another person's pain. Not just Yossela, but also the Levinson wife, who was in a tight financial spot while her husband was on his sickbed, but worried about her daughter's shidduch. Gitty had no problem telling her no, but Lipa couldn't stand to cause this poor woman further anguish, and so he steps up to the plate, to take the burden off her shoulders.
And one more thing about Lipa: When Yossela tells him that he didnt share with him that he met Shira Levi by the kosel because his father lied to him when he told him the couldn't reach them, Lipa could've defended himself and blamed it on his wife. This mess is really all Gitty's doing. But he didnt blame her. That was very big of him.
I was also thinking how Racheli totally gets Akiva. What other woman would wake up in the middle of the night to be painted on an artists whim after a failed painting session? But she's used to manic phases, and knows his temperament.
I can't imagine Nechama liking Shulem enough to go to him. It's one sided there.
I have always liked Lipa. He's constantly backing his wife, and he puts Yossele in his place when the latter has the audacity to say his mother doesn't know what love is. I think she's so hardened that he hasn't seen it in the past years, but she definitely fell for Lipa when they were dating.
I was thinking the fire around Racheli was symbolic of her rising from the ashes or something like that?
I'm pretty optimistic that they can make it work (if the writers let them )
I hope Yossele can save his shidduch, Ruchami lives, and that's the best I can hope for. Shulem is not able to form a solid relationship at this point. I don't really care how Nuchem ends off as I don't like him, though I feel bad for Nechama.
I can't imagine Nechama liking Shulem enough to go to him. It's one sided there.
I have always liked Lipa. He's constantly backing his wife, and he puts Yossele in his place when the latter has the audacity to say his mother doesn't know what love is. I think she's so hardened that he hasn't seen it in the past years, but she definitely fell for Lipa when they were dating.
I was thinking the fire around Racheli was symbolic of her rising from the ashes or something like that?
I'm pretty optimistic that they can make it work (if the writers let them )
I hope Yossele can save his shidduch, Ruchami lives, and that's the best I can hope for. Shulem is not able to form a solid relationship at this point. I don't really care how Nuchem ends off as I don't like him, though I feel bad for Nechama.[/quote]
rising from the ashes - like a phoenix, exactly what I thought
I thiink Nechama will leave Nuchem (Shulem anyway)
I wonder how are they going to fit everything in one episode!
always liked Lipa?
didn't he one day just disappear and abandon Gitty and his family and have an affair and more...?! He is lucky he had a family to come back to.
I don’t think they’ll fit everything into one episode. I think they’ll end next week the way they ended season 2 with Kive and Libi at the art gallery and us hoping the two of them stay together but not really knowing. They can’t leave all the couples up in the air though. Or can they?
Incredible.
Loved the symbolism of Kive seeing Libi and Rachelli ushering her out the door. And when he went to the cemetery.
No words.
Poor Shulem is going to be left with his cheesecake. His hubris destroyed him.
Yossele is totally his father. And Ruchomi even looks like her mother.
They have to resolve those 2 plotlines. They can't leave us hanging!!
I can't believe it's almost over!!
I actually think Yossele is more like his mother, has a little bit of a harsh personality. Besides for the way he reacts to his mother which is normal given the circumstances, I didn't like the way he told Shira what he was thinking, very harsh. His father is a lot warmer.
always liked Lipa?
didn't he one day just disappear and abandon Gitty and his family and have an affair and more...?! He is lucky he had a family to come back to.
Ever since he came back. We understood his breakdown from the stress of trying to support his family when his in-laws didn't like him, when he has a heart of gold and is just trying to do the best he can and it's never successful. He's human, that's what I like about him. His breakdown just showed his humanity, but when he came back, he came back with a full heart again. The scene where he sits on the bedroom floor with Ruchami I think is what got me. Ever since he returned, he is constantly giving and thinking of the others and trying to redeem himself even though he still gets the cold shoulder. He could have given in and broken down again and run away again, but he didn't. He's not well liked by his family, but he gives it his 100% anyway. Or tries to. Even if he makes mistakes time and time again.
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