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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:00 am
amother [ Chocolate ] wrote:
Way too sad. I sure hope the season will get better.

Who thinks Shulem will marry Nechama?


in the trailer you see that Nechama is not thrilled about it
I'm sure he will remain single the whole season… because I hope there will be a season 4!!!
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:02 am
etky wrote:
Yes, he certainly is - also that he has a car....
And I guess people get to know very popular tunes even if they're not the ones sung at one's shul.


but now his car is "justified" because it's a car for deliveries of Gitti's restaurant as you can see when he is driving
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:05 am
etky wrote:
He certainly might have been painting the mother and baby as an expression of his wishful thinking.
Question - if a mother lo aleinu dies in childbirth, is it customary to name the daughter she was birthing after her? I can't even imagine that TBH.


I`m sure he painted all those pictures when Libi was alive, which is why he doesn't want to sell saying those pictures are all that's left. He could paint wishful thinking pictures anytime!
also there is a picture with a stroller so Libi must have died later on
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:08 am
shabbatiscoming wrote:
Right, that is what I said Smile


no you said the garb is chasidish Wink
but gartel is garb too Very Happy
*nitpicking finished*
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:17 am
amother [ Ginger ] wrote:
I`m sure he painted all those pictures when Libi was alive, which is why he doesn't want to sell saying those pictures are all that's left. He could paint wishful thinking pictures anytime!
also there is a picture with a stroller so Libi must have died later on


I imagine that later episodes will reveal all.
I'm sure we'll be 'treated' to flashbacks, like the one at the end, of the wedding night.
Reminds me of the opening episode of the first season when he (or was it Shulem?) imagines his mother/wife....
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:22 am
amother [ Ginger ] wrote:
but now his car is "justified" because it's a car for deliveries of Gitti's restaurant as you can see when he is driving


Interesting. That's a nuance that I wouldn't have gotten on my own Wink
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:29 am
amother [ Ginger ] wrote:
she couldn't have died in childbirth because she is saying "I would like to go back to breastfeeding" and also there is a picture by Aktiva where she is lying in bed with a baby, that doesn't look like its immediately after giving birth


she didn't die!!! she drives with him to the art galery. he is mad shemade him sell the pictures for the house so he takes a taxi and the baby to his fathers house. (at least that's what I understood)
the art galery guy says she died to sell the artwork.
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 6:40 am
770613 wrote:
she didn't die!!! she drives with him to the art galery. he is mad shemade him sell the pictures for the house so he takes a taxi and the baby to his fathers house. (at least that's what I understood)
the art galery guy says she died to sell the artwork.

It shows later on that he is alone in the car, and she's not sitting at the table where he's painting.
And Shulem tells him to stop feeling bad for himself, etc.
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 7:02 am
amother [ Plum ] wrote:
It shows later on that he is alone in the car, and she's not sitting at the table where he's painting.
And Shulem tells him to stop feeling bad for himself, etc.


where does it show that?
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 7:04 am
770613 wrote:
where does it show that?

Right after Kaufman says she passed away. Or after the art show.
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Shuly




 
 
    
 

Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 7:13 am
Libi died when the baby was a few months old.
The show was always full of flashbacks and "ghosts" of the past.
Remember Elisheva with her 2 dead husbands, Shulem with his wife talking to him?

Akiva is arguing with Libi in his head about whether its worth selling the paintings, which are all he has left of her, in order to have a house. In the end, he decides not sell and moves back in with his father. So basically we are back to square one where Akiva is a bachelor living with his widowed father except now they have a baby with them too.
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 7:31 am
So I did not see the previews that others mentioned but I just watched segments of the show again and there is no way that the baby is 18 months old. More like 8 months, which is when the gallery director said that Libi had passed away. Libi does say in the beginning that she wants to nurse the baby again, even just once, which suggests that she did not die during childbirth itself, but soon thereafter. My guess would be a complication following birth like an amniotic fluid embolism or maybe she had a C section and there was an infection afterwards.
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 7:55 am
770613 wrote:
she didn't die!!! she drives with him to the art galery. he is mad shemade him sell the pictures for the house so he takes a taxi and the baby to his fathers house. (at least that's what I understood)
the art galery guy says she died to sell the artwork.
No, she did die. At the art exhibition Kaufman says the artist is widowed 8 month by that time, so we know she died, do it would seem that the car ride to the exhibition with libi was a flash back and I actually think that he finally sells his art work after she dies as he sees that she was right, that they needed the money to live. I think he takes a taxi to his father because he realizes that, after libi died, he cant make it on his own, that he needs his father's hlp.
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 8:03 am
shabbatiscoming wrote:
No, she did die. At the art exhibition Kaufman says the artist is widowed 8 month by that time, so we know she died, do it would seem that the car ride to the exhibition with libi was a flash back and I actually think that he finally sells his art work after she dies as he sees that she was right, that they needed the money to live. I think he takes a taxi to his father because he realizes that, after libi died, he cant make it on his own, that he needs his father's hlp.


I think that after Kiveh sells the Libi-themed artwork he has to finally come to term with the reality of her death and of her absence in his and their baby's life. It's ironic that when he needed financial assistance and Shulem opened up his home to him he refused him, but now - even though he now has money to pay the rent from selling the paintings - he decides to move in with his father. Now he needs him for emotional support.
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 8:18 am
etky wrote:
I think that after Kiveh sells the Libi-themed artwork he has to finally come to term with the reality of her death and of her absence in his and their baby's life. It's ironic that when he needed financial assistance and Shulem opened up his home to him he refused him, but now - even though he now has money to pay the rent from selling the paintings - he decides to move in with his father. Now he needs him for emotional support.
no I think he realises that he doesn‘t want to sell again, after all the money that he has is not going to cover his expenses forever
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 8:21 am
etky wrote:
I imagine that later episodes will reveal all.
I'm sure we'll be 'treated' to flashbacks, like the one at the end, of the wedding night.
Reminds me of the opening episode of the first season when he (or was it Shulem?) imagines his mother/wife....

it was Kives dream in the first season, and
the opening episode of second season also starts with a dream, now its Shulem’s dream about his deceased mother. In the third we are back to Kives dream again
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 9:09 am
s it possible for someone to post it as a google drive link or some other way? My filter doesn't allow sdarot, youtube or telegram. Is it too large to email? tia
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 9:31 am
gold2 wrote:
s it possible for someone to post it as a google drive link or some other way? My filter doesn't allow sdarot, youtube or telegram. Is it too large to email? tia
If you arent in Israel, it wont work. Its blocked.
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 9:35 am
shabbatiscoming wrote:
If you arent in Israel, it wont work. Its blocked.


I am in israel but it says security certificate error so wondering if there is any other way to watch? my filter blocks youtube and telegram
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Post Tue, Dec 22 2020, 9:57 am
gold2 wrote:
I am in israel but it says security certificate error so wondering if there is any other way to watch? my filter blocks youtube and telegram
oh. Sorry, no idea Sad
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