What is chassidish life like?

↑ Mrs. XYZ ↓

Wed, Dec 05 2007, 4:11 pm

Racheli wrote:

To the amother who has never seen a woman with a sheitel driving--look around Monsey, Brooklyn, New Jersey--you'll see thousands of women with sheitels driving.

She didnt say she never saw a woman with a sheitel driving, she said she never saw a sheitel driving. she was joking to poster before who said "shaitels that do drive". Get it?

↑ TzenaRena

Wed, Dec 05 2007, 4:20 pm

Mama Bear wrote:

every community has its own hechsherim, hiddurim, and levush, it doesnt make you stand out from other kehillos.

the question is whether we are looking to stand out, or whether we are trying to be an oved Hashem, a chossid, which is characterized by pnimius, "A chossid is a pnimi".

↑ newmom

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 8:07 am

[quote="Mrs. XYZ"][quote="Racheli"]To the amother who has never seen a woman with a sheitel driving--look around Monsey, Brooklyn, New Jersey--you'll see thousands of women with sheitels driving.[/quote]

She didnt say she never saw a [b]woman with[/b] a sheitel driving, she said she never saw [b]a sheitel [/b]driving. she was joking to poster before who said "shaitels that do drive". Get it?[/quote]

OKAY, at least someone got it!

↑ Squash ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 11:05 am

newmom wrote:

Mrs. XYZ wrote:

Racheli wrote:

To the amother who has never seen a woman with a sheitel driving--look around Monsey, Brooklyn, New Jersey--you'll see thousands of women with sheitels driving.

She didnt say she never saw a woman with a sheitel driving, she said she never saw a sheitel driving. she was joking to poster before who said "shaitels that do drive". Get it?

OKAY, at least someone got it!

anonmommy ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 12:09 pm

a side point- shaving your head doesnt make you more "shtark" in the sense of "strict".it's minhag,minhag,minhag. not "she's frummer, or better".people always say "she's so frum, she's basically chassidish".to me that makes no sense.chassidish people have their minhagim, litvaks have theirs and that's it.

↑ Squash ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 1:22 pm

anonmommy wrote:

that is so true.

↑ Mrs. XYZ

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 3:50 pm

chocolate moose wrote:

do you think a lady with those mionhagim doesn't think they're great, for lack of a better word?

great or holy or important.

Dont YOU think you're great for having "our own hechsherim, we have our own hiddurim, we have our own levushim, and we have our own yomim toivim"? Wink

Atali ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 5:22 pm

I think what defines someone as "shtark" is how well they stick to their own minhagim, whatever they are. For example someone from Satmar who shaves and deosn't drive is "shtark", a Lubavitcher who learns chassidus regularly, wears a shaitel, and goes on mivtzoyim is "shtark", anda litvish woman who has tremendous mesiras nefesh for her DH to learn in Kollel is "shtark".

↑ Motek ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 7:21 pm

chocolate moose wrote:

Those married women, for example, who shave their hair, might think it's stricter to shave, but not everyone holds that way, and if this discussion is going to "go there", and discuss people's minhogim......

This thread is about chassidish (not including Lubavitch) people and the comparison is within those Chagas-Poilish Chassidic groups.

cassandra ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 8:01 pm

Atali wrote:

And where I live, "shtark" for a girl/woman means you learn Gemara well.

↑ Atali ↓

Thu, Dec 06 2007, 10:47 pm

cassandra wrote:

Atali wrote:

And where I live, "shtark" for a girl/woman means you learn Gemara well.

Really? I have never seen such a community. I have seen places where gemara learning was allowed or encouraged, but never emphasized to that degree.

What if a woman isn't intellectual and can't understand gemara, is she then not considered "shtark"? I have a bit of a problem with the definition of "shtark" being linked to something outside the person's control (such as intelligence).

↑ cassandra ↓

Fri, Dec 07 2007, 7:04 am

Atali wrote:

cassandra wrote:

Atali wrote:

And where I live, "shtark" for a girl/woman means you learn Gemara well.

I don't think it has to do with intelligence, since there are many girls who are smart enough to learn but still don't. I think "shtark" here implies more of a drive to do something difficult.

And maybe the word isn't used so much in my community, but in my circle where many of us have learned, but some haven't. "Shtark" is a positive description, but not being "shtark" is not a negative in this case.

↑ chocolate moose ↓

Fri, Dec 07 2007, 7:07 am

creativemommyto3 wrote:

I have always been curious to find out what chassidishe life is like? I am asking out of total curiousity. No bashing intended. If anybody can reccomend books ( in English) I would appreciate it. Many of the women seem so happy with their roles as women and with their lives in general. Do chassidish ppl really talk to their husbands beyond, how is your day? Is there ever any emotions involved? What are some of the minhagim like and what are the reasons for them? I can't think of more, but I know I have more questions though.

This is OP's original post, from page one. Motek, you know threads turn, flow, and ebb....