Lakewood - anyone still school-less?

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:18 pm

amother wrote:

What a terrible thing to say.
I can only be dl"z that you are or were in tremendous pain that you do/did not have a school for your child.
I guess according to you Flatbush, Monsey, and communities all over are also "sick".
Because I personally know of families in other communities who had a hard time getting kids into school as well. At least in Lakewood there is a Vaad that is specifically set up to help.
Go find out for yourself what it is like in Monsey when you have no money, no pull, and no school!!!

A Proud Lakewood Amother

Be proud if coming from a town that has a Vaad that has to be subservient to sick controlling people... That as of now has over a hundred children not in school and there is nothing being done about it. Go bury your head in the sand and keep being proud of a place that has values so messed up they can't recognize it...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:22 pm

amother wrote:

Amother above me u have to find some connection to someone who cares. I know a parent who did that last year refused to send to the new school and they kept their daughter home until Chanukah. Noone cared. No one. This is a sick town. Chanukah they were forced to send to that same school because not one school in town cared to accept them and no one felt bad for them and they felt so stupid in the end.

Amother if you have no pull sadly u will be forced to send there unless u find someone to help you. Rack your brain and I'm sure u can find someone.

Just b/c noone will accept them doesn't = noone cares.
When I don't give my son a cookie right before supper it is not because I do not care (although he might think so)
Look, there is a big problem of space in Lakewood. There simply are not enough seats for all the incoming students and classes and schools are being opened left and right to alleviate the problem.
Now here is where it gets tough.
A new school is opened and parents don't want to send. The want to send to an "establlished school". Look I can understand that. But someone is going to have to send there. And that someone may be you. And if you hold your kid out till Chanukah and get into an established school, then next year there will be 50 families doing the same thing. The Vaad needs to be strong and the schools need to say no for the sake of your sister, your neighbor, and your friend. We NEED these new schools!

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:23 pm

amother wrote:

Why do you think nothing is being done about it?
Do you think that new schools will not be opened, and new classes added if there are 100 kids out of school?
Look what has happened in the past.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:32 pm

amother wrote:

Why do you think nothing is being done about it?
Do you think that new schools will not be opened, and new classes added if there are 100 kids out of school?
Look what has happened in the past.

What happened in the past is that kids stayed home till Chanukah not in school... No, parents in the situation now know that there is very little happening to resolve the situation...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:36 pm

amother wrote:

Ooh I love this one!! I have to do what's best for the town, not for my child. Or, like your son I am too simplistic to recognize what I'm looking for in a school. Thanks for this insight. I will now follow through with your advice. Not.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:52 pm

Proud Lakewood amother in Monsey it is not as bad. I have tons of family in Monsey and there has never been a story of a child home until Chanukah and no school caring. It might be hard to get into school in Monsey but the sickness and callousness of what goes on in Lakewood is unheard of. It's a power struggle in Lakewood.

And yes I had a hard time getting into schools in Lakewood until they found out whot relative was. My husband wanted to get in on his own merit and didn't believe we wouldn't get in on our own right away. The schools thought we Weren't a good fit for them until they found out who our relative was and suddenly every school wanted us.

What does that say about this sick disgusting town that calls themselves a yeshiva town.

And if the rabbonim really cared they won't sleep until all children are in school. And they won't let this happen very single year.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:57 pm

amother wrote:

This!!! Thank you for validating us!!! Unfortunately, too true...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 10:57 pm

amother wrote:

You dont HAVE to live here. Although if you do choose to, and you do realize which school is the best one for your child, good for you. You have to do for the best of your child.
But why, oh why does that make the vaad bad, evil, and the whole town sick?

Yes, you do need to do what is best for your child. So do it. And if that means keeping your kid home till Chanukah, or homeschooling, or calling and nudging every day, yes, you are the parent and you have to do what is best for your child. And if you know that your child absolutely wont succeed in school A or B then dont send them.
But how many parents did not want to send to the new school, but were forced to and are now so happy that they are there. and how many great schools with no room were not so many years ago not desirable at all. after all they were new.

The vaad is there to help. and they do an admirable thankless job.

and they help ensure thosands of kids placement in schools.

and they back new schools,

and they help set up additional classes.

No, it is not a sick town at all.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:10 pm

Its all about money. Amother just promise money and then don't deliver. It will be too late and the school won't kick you out then. I know a few people who did this.

That's why now some schools only accept through an established person promising the money so that the school has who to go back to to get the money from established person.

You hear people say I offered money and the school still didn't accept my child. It's because the school didn't think that this person would pay up.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:15 pm

amother wrote:

I do have to live here now, due to my husbands employment obligations. And your mentality seems to be very in synch with that of the elitists and others that feel like us lil folk who don't have mega prestigious last names or big bucks to offer should suffer the consequences. It's proud ppl like you who obviously don't care that give Lakewood it's bad rapp. The Vaad does a thankless job the best they can, but they are hindered by ignorant people like yourself, and by the controlling influentials that have their best financial and kavod in mind. And let me guess, you had super connections and got your children into school right away? So now you feel you can preach to me about what I should do? You must be better than me, forgive me...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:18 pm

amother wrote:

But because I'm an honest person I won't do this. I'll bet the proud lakewooder here would though cause she's knows what's best.
From someone embarrassed to be associated with the sick town known as Lakewood

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:19 pm

Amother above me you are totally right this is a sick town controlled by selfish me people. You have to rack your brain to find someone who can help you or better someone who owes you big time because otherwise just send to where the vaad tells you to because no one else will care.

and by the way where does the vaad want you to send to how bad is the school?

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:20 pm

amother wrote:

Yup, name of the game!!! This is totally what happens...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:35 pm

amother wrote:

I didn't have super connections. I don't have a mega-prestigious name. and I definately don't have big bucks. BH my kids did get into schools. And I sincerely hope that you and all others who still need schools get in to a good school that is good for you and your child TONIGHT!
But like a broken record here. to call the town sick is just not fair.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:41 pm

I moved to Lakewood a few years ago, after schools promised to take my kids in. One DD and one DS got in after three months. Another DS after 6 months. No matter who my DH went to speak to, it didnt make a difference. Fast forward years later, my DS who was out of cheder for 6 months? is now a 16 yo working bochur because yeshiva life isnt cut out for him. I blame the Lakewood system for not giving the kids a chance. When a yeshiva tells a kid, you dont need to be in a school, then its very obvious to the child that they really dont need to be in school/yeshiva.

This is the message that Lakewood Ihr Hatorah/yeshiva town teaches.

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:44 pm

amother wrote:

Amen. Thanks! I do feel like that was sincere and I'm sorry for attacking you. It's coming from a place of pain, which doesn't make it ok. It's so scary knowing school is starting and I have nothing to tell my innocent child. Who has sterling midos, is super smart with a great fun personality. Who is trusting me to do what's right and take care of him... What is the future of Lakewood going to look like as each year the problem gets worse...and when an askan tells you to your face there must be big issues at home if you are so into getting your child into a good school then you feel like the place he is representing is sick...

↑ amother ↓

Sat, Aug 23 2014, 11:47 pm

amother wrote:

How many testimonials are needed to prove this point?! It's not normal. This is sick and does not happen to this extent in any other Jewish community. I'm so sorry, perhaps your experience can help discourage ppl from coming here?

↑ amother ↓

Sun, Aug 24 2014, 12:19 am

Maya wrote:

FTR, I know people in Monsey who had their girls home last year until Chanukah time, and then sent them to NJ. But Monsey is not a cohesive community, or a yeshivah town, like Lakewood.

but when you have lots and lots of ppl moving to lakewood for affordable housing, you can't complain that the schools are supposed to take you in cuz it's a yeshiva town and cohesive community.

It doesn't work both ways, honey!