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↑ chocolate moose ↓

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 11:23 am

I was at first annoyed b/c he must have thought I was a shiksa. ( Not flattering, IMO.)

Then, when I asked, I was told he shouldn't have sat next to ANY lady.

Surely he didn't think I was a man! So, I let it go - perhaps he had stood a lot that morning, or some such . . . it wasn't abot me,by any means.

↑ mimsy7420

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 11:30 am

Or maybe his back hurt him or something and he simply wanted to sit down.

↑ shabbatiscoming

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 11:32 am

chocolate moose wrote:

maybe he just did not know that halacha. but wait, I have a question, if there is no other seat at all, I know you said there was, but lets say another situation, lets say there was no seat other than near a woman, he should be allowed to sit, right?

MOM222

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 12:06 pm

chocolate moose wrote:

Then, when I asked, I was told he shouldn't have sat next to ANY lady.
.

Why can't a man sit next to one lady if you're not touching?

Flowerchild

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 12:13 pm

when your on a subway there is a high chance of rubbing sholders backs against people especially during peek hours. but sometimes it cant be avoided, youll have no choice and bump into a person, or rub sholders cause there is no room...

Motek ↓

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 4:47 pm

Lillyofthevalley wrote:

when your on a subway there is a high chance of rubbing sholders backs against people especially during peek hours.

and then what difference would it make it you rubbed shoulders while standing or sitting? may as well sit ...

TzenaRena

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 11:18 pm

brooklyn wrote:

Halachas only apply to Jews.

Actually, morality is one of the seven Noachide Laws, and general tznius could be a branch of that.

I have noticed that even non-Jewish men do not rush to sit down next to women on the train. I can usually find seats next to another woman, and when there are a few empty seats, the non-Jewish man who wants to sit usually will leave at least one seat in between. if there isn't any, most men remain standing! Nobody wants to share part of a seat with someone of opposite gender!(this is in my experience, can't speak for anyone else, but I find it quite interesting. )

↑ amother

Thu, Jan 11 2007, 11:25 pm

I hate it when I sitdown on the subway and a man stands facing me

ShiraMiri

Fri, Jan 12 2007, 9:46 am

There really should be mehadrin subway cars with a mechitza!

happy2beme

Fri, Jan 12 2007, 10:10 am

Quote:

I have noticed that even non-Jewish men do not rush to sit down next to women on the train.

Most of the time, I see people hurrying to sit next to the skinny people (female or male) on the train. This way they have more room. LOL

I'm serious.

ny21

Fri, Jan 12 2007, 10:13 am

I saw on tv that obeese people on plains
should have to pay for two seats

↑ chocolate moose ↓

Fri, Jan 12 2007, 12:00 pm

lol. and how about kids? who don't pay yet take up a seat or more?

↑ Motek

Sun, Jan 14 2007, 4:48 pm

What does payment have to do with it? Should seniors not get a full seat since they pay a reduced fare?

amother wrote:

their is a law that a man can not sit between two women .

nope
it says a man cannot walk between two women
a woman cannot walk between two men

and nothing about a man sitting next to a woman or vice versa

if you think otherwise, please quote the source

lubcoralsprings

Sun, Jan 14 2007, 4:55 pm

There might be nothing halachikally wrong with it but I can tell you I wouldn't feel comfortable sitting next to a man on a luvseat.

Blossom

Sun, Jan 14 2007, 5:30 pm

Amomther is in her ninth month with a swollen leg, uncomfortable or not, she did what she SHOULD which is Sitting down on the only available seat (and she wasn't touching).

↑ chocolate moose

Mon, Jan 15 2007, 2:15 pm

Hey, the day after Tisha B'av, when I was on my way to work sitting on the subway, and a man cozied up next to me, that was also not comfortable!

Who says dinim are made for comfort?

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