Nechemya Weberman charged with abusing 12 yr old girl

↑ IamAJewishWoman ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:48 pm

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

I am just so very shocked! why do you ppl choose to believe a young woman over a grown down to earth chushava man? does anyone here know him??? how can you so easily talk?!? I dont get it at all

And herein lies the problems.
And now I want to throw up.

go ahead!

I think instead I'm going to pray that despite this, Hashem protects you and you never have to have a daughter go through horrible abuse at the hands of a "chushava man" and have no one believe her.

it definitely makes more sense that you pray..
again, I dont know him, I dont know her, and I dont know the truth! and neither do you, so how can we so freely talk on either of them?

↑ celestial ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:50 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

I am just so very shocked! why do you ppl choose to believe a young woman over a grown down to earth chushava man? does anyone here know him??? how can you so easily talk?!? I dont get it at all

And herein lies the problems.
And now I want to throw up.

go ahead!

I think instead I'm going to pray that despite this, Hashem protects you and you never have to have a daughter go through horrible abuse at the hands of a "chushava man" and have no one believe her.

it definitely makes more sense that you pray..
again, I dont know him, I dont know her, and I dont know the truth! and neither do you, so how can we so freely talk on either of them?

I FEEL like I want to throw up because you think that the very demographic that is most likely to abuse their power should be protected, but of course I want to pray that no one else ever gets harmed from the kind of people you think deserve protection because of their social status.

↑ IamAJewishWoman ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:52 pm

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

I am just so very shocked! why do you ppl choose to believe a young woman over a grown down to earth chushava man? does anyone here know him??? how can you so easily talk?!? I dont get it at all

And herein lies the problems.
And now I want to throw up.

go ahead!

I think instead I'm going to pray that despite this, Hashem protects you and you never have to have a daughter go through horrible abuse at the hands of a "chushava man" and have no one believe her.

it definitely makes more sense that you pray..
again, I dont know him, I dont know her, and I dont know the truth! and neither do you, so how can we so freely talk on either of them?

you totally dont get me.

↑ Chloe ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:54 pm

chavamom wrote:

Chloe wrote:

I live in Williamsburg. You all know that I'm a realistic open-minded person (you can read my posts) and I am outspoken against child molesters. However, in this case, if you would know the girl you would not be so easily influenced by the media (the worst place from where to gain accurate insights with all their hype and distortions).

I know this girl personally. I do not want to take sides, or speak loshon horah because of course I wasn't there when she was having her session with him, but I can tell you that it is extremely easy to accuse a man nowadays and I believe that this is the case here from the INSIDE STORY that I personally know.

I deleted my original post. You are totally deluded and this post makes me want to barf. You know the "inside story"? Oh really? And yet you defend this man?

If you want to put words into my mouth or read my post the way you'd like to read it then go ahead and barf. I have not taken any sides, have not defended him and all I did was to caution everyone not to jump to conclusions.

↑ celestial ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:57 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

No, I don't get you. Do you "get" the demographic that is most likely to abuse? The powerful men, everyone thinks should be free from scrutiny? These are the true monsters of the world.

how on earth do you know that this mister is is an abuser????

When did I say I knew anything? I'm just reacting to your shock that people would put a "chasuva" man up for scrutiny, and assume that it's possible a girl might be telling the truth.

↑ sequoia ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:57 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

Do you think a woman is less trustworthy than a man?

no, I dont think so. I am just trying to say, that we both dont know the truth so we both better keep our mouths shut! (not talking on him and not on HER!!) its REAL lushan hura!

You said specifically, "I can't believe you all would believe a woman!"

↑ imamiri ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 8:59 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

I am just so very shocked! why do you ppl choose to believe a young woman over a grown down to earth chushava man? does anyone here know him??? how can you so easily talk?!? I dont get it at all

You must be in the group mentioned in this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05......html

A child molesters dream come true: someone that would throw victims under the bus just because they accuse a learned man.

↑ IamAJewishWoman ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:01 pm

sequoia wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

Do you think a woman is less trustworthy than a man?

no, I dont think so. I am just trying to say, that we both dont know the truth so we both better keep our mouths shut! (not talking on him and not on HER!!) its REAL lushan hura!

You said specifically, "I can't believe you all would believe a woman!"

I wrote a woman over a man! I didnt just write 'believe a woman', (I believe in myself) for real, I really dont care about the story, just think about it. seriously, imagine chas vasholam they accuse your husband.. well he is a man, so no one is supposed to believe him now?
I will say this again, I have no idea what the truth is, and neither do you, so why dont we both not talk? on EITHER of them!

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↑ Chloe ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:03 pm

Barbara wrote:

Chloe wrote:

About CBS and Fox News and all the television channels in front of Continental right now, I think the community brought it upon themselves by their own behavior towards molesters. Their horrible treatment of the victims and the protection for the criminal is now playing against them.
Had they been trusted that it's a community that deals with molesters the way they should be then maybe they wouldn't come down so harsh when such stories happen. But, because the community cannot be trusted due to the way they handled previous s-xual abuse cases, even those that might be innocent are assumed guilty.

No. You didn't. You attacked her in a disgusting manner.

Show me where?

Quote:

You said that you have some "insider" information, and that if other knew what you did, we wouldn't "be influenced by the media" -- ie, we wouldn't believe that this girl was molested.

ie, is the way you choose to perceive what I wrote. I said I know some inside information, I didn't divulge anything, I didn't say he's innocent. I just asked people to hear both sides of the story before they jump to conclusions. And yes, don't be influenced by the media, they only give you one side.

Quote:

You called her liar

.

Really? Where?

I tried my best to put this down as neutrally as possible but I guess for those who are so excited for another opportunity to "get" a Chareidi man (generally speaking) the mere mention that there could actually be another side hinders their ability to read posts that are neutral and meant well.
I am extremely hurt of the accusation you have posted against me when I thought I tried really hard to just clarify that there might be more to the story.
I have never ever ever called a victim of molestation a liar. I am outspoken against child molesters and I won't have people accusing me of something that I would never do.

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↑ IamAJewishWoman ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:03 pm

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

No, I don't get you. Do you "get" the demographic that is most likely to abuse? The powerful men, everyone thinks should be free from scrutiny? These are the true monsters of the world.

how on earth do you know that this mister is is an abuser????

When did I say I knew anything? I'm just reacting to your shock that people would put a "chasuva" man up for scrutiny, and assume that it's possible a girl might be telling the truth.

ok, I made a mistake and I wrote he is a 'chusava man' alright he may not be. what I am really trying to say is that we shouldnt talk on EITHER of them since we do NOT know the truth!!!!

↑ EmesOrNT ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:04 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

Do you think a woman is less trustworthy than a man?

no, I dont think so. I am just trying to say, that we both dont know the truth so we both better keep our mouths shut! (not talking on him and not on HER!!) its REAL lushan hura!

You said specifically, "I can't believe you all would believe a woman!"

I wrote a woman over a man? I didnt just write 'believe a woman', (I believe in myself) for real, I really dont care about the story, just think about it. seriously, imagine chas vasholam they accuse your husband.. well he is a man, so no one is supposed to believe him now?
I will say this again, I have no idea what the truth is, and neither do you, so why dont we both not talk? on EITHER of them!

Well, if my husband was spending 3 hour sessions behind closed doors with a young girl, and taking her on 12 hour trips upstate, I'm pretty sure he would have "some 'splainin to do".

↑ imamiri ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:04 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

sequoia wrote:

Do you think a woman is less trustworthy than a man?

no, I dont think so. I am just trying to say, that we both dont know the truth so we both better keep our mouths shut! (not talking on him and not on HER!!) its REAL lushan hura!

You said specifically, "I can't believe you all would believe a woman!"

Yes don't talk about it. That is really sound advice that helps the abusers. Just what they want. Don't talk, don't report, certainly never let the media find out. It's good they have you in their corner. Thumbs Up

↑ celestial ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:05 pm

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

No, I don't get you. Do you "get" the demographic that is most likely to abuse? The powerful men, everyone thinks should be free from scrutiny? These are the true monsters of the world.

how on earth do you know that this mister is is an abuser????

When did I say I knew anything? I'm just reacting to your shock that people would put a "chasuva" man up for scrutiny, and assume that it's possible a girl might be telling the truth.

ok, I made a mistake and I wrote he is a 'chusava man' alright he may not be. what I am really trying to say is that we shouldnt talk on EITHER of them since we do NOT know the truth!!!!

Your original assumptions betray your prejudice. The kind of prejudice that, if held by a whole community, puts children in grave danger.

↑ imamiri ↓

Wed, May 16 2012, 9:06 pm

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

IamAJewishWoman wrote:

celestial wrote:

No, I don't get you. Do you "get" the demographic that is most likely to abuse? The powerful men, everyone thinks should be free from scrutiny? These are the true monsters of the world.

how on earth do you know that this mister is is an abuser????

When did I say I knew anything? I'm just reacting to your shock that people would put a "chasuva" man up for scrutiny, and assume that it's possible a girl might be telling the truth.

ok, I made a mistake and I wrote he is a 'chusava man' alright he may not be. what I am really trying to say is that we shouldnt talk on EITHER of them since we do NOT know the truth!!!!

Your original assumptions betray your prejudice. The kind of prejudice that, if held by a whole community, puts children in grave danger.

Well we know it's held by some leaders of some communities. You read the NYT article. Harassment and pressure to keep it hidden.