best product to IMPORT from Israel or Europe ?

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:08 am

baba wrote:

dilego wrote:

´sarahd if I remember correctly the ingredient is something derived fvrom wine,I can´t remember exactly

I just used it this evening and checked the ingredients. It doesnt mention wine or anything else that wouldn't be kosher.

It mentions spice extracts and if I had to guess I'd put my money on that being the problematic ingredient.

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:11 am

DrMom wrote:

Disclaimer: I am not a kashrut expert, nor a halacha expert.

I never knew that whether or not the food in question was prepared specifically for Jews made a difference when it comes to batel beshishim.

Well, live and learn Very Happy

. It does make a difference.

↑ DrMom ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:20 am

I'd still like to see source for this to better understand it. It sounds very counter-intuitive to me.

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:31 am

shabri wrote:

In this case, you know that there is a non kosher ingredient it there. I never heard that ein mevatlin issur lichatchila only applies if it was being manufactured for Jews.

Ask your LOR. There are probably a lot of halachos that the average layperson is not aware of.

↑ baba ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:33 am

dilego wrote:

the mentioned ingredient is not mentioned on the tube b/c its less than 2 % of the whole recipy

As far as I know you have to mention every ingredient, even if it's that little.

Sarahd, I'm just wondering who exactly gave you the info?

↑ zipporah ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 4:55 am

I want to find out how common this is, and if any other products are treated this way, so I posted the question in the Kosher Kitchen section:

http://imamother.com/forum/vie.....43207

↑ yo'ma ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:01 am

Raisin wrote:

ray379 wrote:

I miss eating kosher skittles that my madrichot from England used to bring for us when I was in sem. Yum!

not kosher anymore.

Oh, how about boil in a bag rice and tomato paste in tubes?

Raisin, I first read the second part of what you wrote in response to the skittles being not kosher and she can make it herself Confused

. I had to read it a few times, until I realized you were saying something to import.

They used to sell tomato paste like that in the states. I don't remember why they changed it though. What's good about in a tube, you don't have to use the whole thing and it's easy to save for later. We get it in glass jars, so I like it like that too.

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:04 am

baba wrote:

dilego wrote:

the mentioned ingredient is not mentioned on the tube b/c its less than 2 % of the whole recipy

As far as I know you have to mention every ingredient, even if it's that little.

Sarahd, I'm just wondering who exactly gave you the info?

Which info?

↑ DrMom ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:21 am

Why aren't Skittles kosher anymore (not that this affects my life at all -- I never liked them)?

↑ baba

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:51 am

sarahd wrote:

baba wrote:

dilego wrote:

the mentioned ingredient is not mentioned on the tube b/c its less than 2 % of the whole recipy

As far as I know you have to mention every ingredient, even if it's that little.

Sarahd, I'm just wondering who exactly gave you the info?

Which info?

That there's a non kosher product in the mayo. Now I'm just really curious as to what spice isnt kosher. Or is it more like they used one of the onion powders that have additives.

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:57 am

Dh's friend wanted to import Thomy mayonnaise to the US a few years ago and he spoke to one of the rabbanim in the kashrus commission about putting a hechsher on it. The rov explained to him why it's not possible.

BTW, this is what the kashrus list says about spices:

Quote:

Dried, chopped or powdered spices or herbs, on which only the pure spice ingredient is listed are permitted. Spice extracts, granulated spices, spice or herbs mixtures could be forbidden.

Thomy mayonnaise has spice extracts as the last ingredient.

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↑ DrMom ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 5:59 am

But people who are considered very strict about their kashrut standards eat the stuff? (This is the part that I find most baffling...)

Ruchel ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 6:06 am

I can say that in Switzerland I have seen the Thomy stuff in some of the most strict houses, as in black coat etc.

↑ cc

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 7:12 am

Black coat doesnt automaticaly equal very strict in food. Not everyone considers london beis din a good hechsher or follow their list.

↑ sarahd ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 7:17 am

The rabbinate that issues the Swiss kosher list is more comparable to Kedassia, I would think.

And Ruchel is right - almost everyone here uses Thomy mayonnaise, even very frum people. There are probably some who don't, but they probably don't use anything else on the list either, and only use heimish hechsherim. (Which is extremely limiting here, as many fairly basic items such as pasta (and mayonnaise, if I'm not mistaken) are not carried in the kosher grocery, since everyone buys theirs in the regular supermarket.)

↑ Raisin ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 7:44 am

DrMom wrote:

Why aren't Skittles kosher anymore (not that this affects my life at all -- I never liked them)?

who knows? they went off the list several years back. I guess they changed the recipe or something.

I also thought they were disgusting.

↑ DrMom ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 8:00 am

Raisin wrote:

DrMom wrote:

Why aren't Skittles kosher anymore (not that this affects my life at all -- I never liked them)?

who knows? they went off the list several years back. I guess they changed the recipe or something.

I also thought they were disgusting.

I was thinking if they just changed some teensy weensy ingredient, then maybe it is kosher (under the Thomy mayo logic), just not hecsherable.

Seems like there would be a huge number of foods which can fall this category. All the candies that are not under hecsher because they use carmine food coloring (yuck)? Heck, food coloring's gotta be in there in a volume proportion less than 1:60, right? Blammo! It's okay to eat.

↑ zipporah ↓

Wed, Feb 23 2011, 12:52 pm

farm wrote:

How about importing Marmite?

You can get that in larger supermarkets. In the same section as "kosher" food (think gefilte fish jars and borscht) usually. Smile