bringing kids to shul when they are sick :evil:

zuncompany ↓

Thu, Sep 23 2004, 6:24 pm

Okay, I stopped going to mommy and me cause Zu always got sick from it. He had two sinus infections in his first six months! I didn't bring him to shul the last couple of yom tovs cause I was worried. Well, I brought him to shul Rosh hashana cause I wanted to get to daven and hear shofar. Guess what! Motzei shabbos he comes down with a fever, a cough, etc... Poor kid is miserable. Now Tev too! I couldn't go in today for the funeral cause I couldn't fly with Tev. The ped said no way!

So why do people have to bring their kids to shul or play group when they are sick. Until the boys are better we are not socializing. Why do people though???

Sorry if I am ranting. I am just so tired of this. I feel like I never want to go to shul again! We will be in Chicago for the first days of succos and I am seriously wondering if I should just stay at my sil/bil's with the boys and not go with them to shul! URG! I don't want to miss Simchas Torah either and I know Zu would have so much fun dancing! But I don't want him to get sick again!
sara

proudmom ↓

Thu, Sep 23 2004, 6:31 pm

I know this sound weird but if you want to prevent them from getting sick again, take the hand sanitizer with you wherever you go and wash your kids hands constantly or even baby wipes and just make sure you constantly clean them. Because if they have the infections on their hands and then put their hands in their mouth Chas Vesholom they can get sick. Try that and see if it works.

Rochel Leah

Thu, Sep 23 2004, 7:18 pm

I dont know if there is something but maybe ask your ped if there is something to give zu to help boost his immune system, cuz what a pity for both you and him to miss out on social events. My 18 year old sister is like zu, whenever she goes to sleep over at afriends or overdoes herself she gets sick...but I dont know what she does to help it though.

↑ zuncompany ↓

Fri, Sep 24 2004, 12:47 am

Ped said he is to young to take.

Why though do people bring their kids to shul when they are sick? Now all the kids who were there are sick with fevers. Not only that but we had a non-frum couple come to us for a meal for yom tov that we are friends with and their kids have it too! I guess by the time they came to us he was contagious and we didn't know he was sick yet. I feel so bad. Its sillyness.
Sara

Liba

Fri, Sep 24 2004, 7:52 am

zuncompany wrote:

It is possible that the children who your sons got sick from also weren't acting sick yet but were contagious already.

Has your son seen an immunologist? It sounds like her gets sick much more easily than a typical child. There are ways to boost immune function if it is really lacking. They aren't all fun but if you son can't lead a normal life, playing with other children and eventually going to school with those same children, it may be worth looking into. My oldest has a disorder which causes bone marrow problems and a reduced production of neutrophils (the white blood cells which fight infection) and lots of the kids with the disorder also have reduced immunogobulin levels. They get sick very easily, just like your son seems to. It is a serious issue and better addressed sooner than later!

I hope I am not scaring you. If it is an issue, addressing it sooner rather than later is best. Simple blood tests could tell a lot.

Hatzlocho!

Liba

↑ zuncompany ↓

Fri, Sep 24 2004, 9:49 am

thanks Liba. First she knew the kid was sick. she was kvetching about the child's fever to us. Thats when I took my son out of the children's program. Second, yes we have taken him to an immunologist. I am IgA deficient so we wanted to get him checked since he seems to have my sinus problems also. B"H he is fine. The ironic thing is that I took him out of mommy and me cause he got those two sinus infections. Both those times, he got sick from this same kid! I have been avoiding yom tov going to shul if I know they are in town. He has also gotten two colds from the kid. I think that kid needs to be checked. My son has never been sick except the times he has played with this specific kid!
sara

mommy2

Sat, Sep 25 2004, 10:08 pm

My oldest son hardly ever got sick until he went to playgroup and boom, colds, ear infections... Not only that but it makes my husband and I sick (I got an ear infection too last yr). This year he went to school and a few days later he had a cold, that spread to all of us including the youngest who also got an ear infection. Its very normal, that as soon as your son gets exposed he gets sick, b/c he was never exposed to that cold yet. I don't think parents can keep their kids home for 10 days which is really how long a cold lasts. Its a pain but thats life!

Motek

Sun, Sep 26 2004, 10:30 am

Zun - your oldest is only 17 months old! It's not at all surprising that he gets sick when exposed to others

as Mommy2 writes - it's quite normal/common for a child to get sick when first exposed to others

I don't know that I believe in the "expose them, and let them build up an immune system" theory
who says it builds up their immune system? they often just keep on getting sick, with different cold germs each time!

maybe a better idea is to minimize their exposure to other children

↑ zuncompany

Sun, Sep 26 2004, 10:40 am

Motek, I agree about sometimes it isn't the best meathod. Why should I keep getting him sick. However I can't always keep him home. However is it really to much to ask for to ask parents whose kids are obviously sick (the kid had a fever) to keep them home. Not only is it better for the kid (my personal opinion is a kid with a fever, is a kid who should be home resting and getting lots of fluids), but better for everyone else. Why should we all have sick kids when it could have easily been avoided? She knew the kid was sick, she knew the kid had a fever, yet she brought the kid to shul. I don't get it! No, you can't hide out for 10 days, but come on.
Sara

CS ↓

Mon, Sep 27 2004, 8:20 am

I know of a woman whose child got worms from school - I told her to advise the school immediately so that a) they could clean out the sand box (probable cause) and b) they could notify the other parents to look out for signs of the worms. She didn't! I guess some people are just selfish - it's really sad.

I called the mother of one of the teachers and informed them anyway, but it makes me sick that people can't take responsibility.

Also, I always found that flying lowered my kids' resistance to everything. It seemed every time we flew to visit my parents in Toronto, I would be taking my kids to the doctor. I found that by making sure they had plenty of sleep before flight and after flight actually helped them ward anything off.

micki ↓

Mon, Sep 27 2004, 8:38 am

hi everyone- it seems that none of us want sicl children. there are 2 ways to do this, help their systems, and avoid sick children. in our community the school policy is if you have a fever you stay home. regular colds are not considered "sick"
so give your children "SAMBUCOL" its an israely formula which is a miracle. whenever the weather turns cold or I am sick or just for the heck of it- give it to them. its a mixture of elderberry and echnechia and other good safe stuff.
then give them 500 mg of vit c and a squirt of garlic- "Kyolic" do the sambucol first, then garlic and appease with the C
the kyolic is not my kids favorite but it helps with ear infections and coughs.
secondly ALL children get sick. and yes they have to go through all these colds to give them immunity for when they are adults. when I was little I would get this HORRIBLE eye/nose cold and oy I was always a mess. now however when I get the cold I don't gett the eye tearing. I went through all the strains as a kid. its uncomfortable but you can't have your child walking with a bubble around them. don't expose them on purpose but help them get over what they have and more so PREVENTIVE medicine works.

↑ CS

Mon, Sep 27 2004, 8:42 am

Micki - I have samucol in my cupboard - I forgot all about it. I remember trying to give it to them when I first purchased it, and they hated the taste. Any hints on how to disguise it - if I remember correctly, it has a pretty strong taste.

Rivka

Wed, Nov 17 2004, 4:34 pm

It isn't fair for parents to send their kids to playgroups or social places when they are sick coz they just make everyone else sick.
I send my son to creche and he has recently caught a virus which I caught off him and we have both been home for over a week feeling sick and coughing and all sorts. It isn't fair at all, but hopefully this is the last of the major things that will happen.
Keeping your child cooped up won't work, just going shopping he could catch something from an adult or kid who has sneezed, or public transport also.
It is very annoying and frustrating but he will have a stronger immune system coz of it, which means he can't catch it again, catching different strains of the common cold is different and no need to keep him out of playgroups unless he has fever.
Maybe change his diet using certain foods which are good for energy and the immune system.