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amother
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Yesterday at 11:07 pm
my son knows that we periodically check his cellphone, we dont read the texts, but we can glance at who he is in contact with.
I found a number that he called a few times recently. I called it to see what it was. It said, welcome back to chat GPT
Ok, so I am clueless.
What is this number that he is calling and could it be a problem for a yeshivish yeshiva bochur to be calling it? Why might he be calling it and could it be at all offensive from a spiritual perspective? Is it clean or can he be exposing himself to inappropriate arayos through this?
Please respond if you can advise, thanks so much
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:10 pm
He can basically access info from the Internet
but less reliable and factual
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Arcticblue
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Yesterday at 11:13 pm
Wow never knew Chat GPT is available over the phone like that. Turns out it is - https://help.openai.com/en/art.....phone
It’s like an advanced form of googling. You ask artificial intelligence questions and it answers you. It’s fun to play with. No reason to think he’s doing anything dirty. Why are you snooping on him to this degree? Feels excessive imho.
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Canary
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Yesterday at 11:14 pm
People dont realise it's like unfiltered internet
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:15 pm
amother Arcticblue wrote: | Wow never knew Chat GPT is available over the phone like that. Turns out it is - https://help.openai.com/en/art.....phone
It’s like an advanced form of googling. You ask artificial intelligence questions and it answers you. It’s fun to play with. No reason to think he’s doing anything dirty. Why are you snooping on him to this degree? Feels excessive imho. |
It's new
You don't know who op is and what exposure is/isn't acceptable for her son at this point, you're assuming everything is fine may or may not be true and attacking the op was uncalled for
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mha3484
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Yesterday at 11:25 pm
It really depends on what you do with it. My very yeshivish 14 year old likes to have it write alternate history scenarios which he finds interesting.
I also listened to a podcast about lonely kids and teens using AI as someone to talk to and thats very problematic.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:31 pm
amother Arcticblue wrote: | Wow never knew Chat GPT is available over the phone like that. Turns out it is - https://help.openai.com/en/art.....phone
It’s like an advanced form of googling. You ask artificial intelligence questions and it answers you. It’s fun to play with. No reason to think he’s doing anything dirty. Why are you snooping on him to this degree? Feels excessive imho. |
snooping on him? did you read my OP? My son KNOWS that we periodically check his phone. I guess I should have been clearer... That was part of the agreement we made with him when we got him a phone . I am doing nothing excessive. I check it maybe twice a year. But thanks for the info. I didnt appreciate the attack though.
He is a very sheltered yeshiva bochur which is why I want to know what it is. I didnt even tell him yet that I saw he phoned that number. I want info first. thanks
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giftedmom
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Yesterday at 11:31 pm
He’s 17. Either way not much you can do about it.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:32 pm
amother Powderblue wrote: | It's new
You don't know who op is and what exposure is/isn't acceptable for her son at this point, you're assuming everything is fine may or may not be true and attacking too was uncalled for |
Thank you for standing up for me. And Yes my son is very sheltered. He doesnt have acess to google except on a desktop in the living room with everyone walking past it. Very strong filtered internet. And hes only home once a month so usually doesnt have any internet access.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:33 pm
giftedmom wrote: | He’s 17. Either way not much you can do about it. |
why not? If I were to hear that its not good for his ruchniyus I would tell him to not call it . Maybe he would listen,maybe he wouldnt . But at least I can tell him. He is a very good bochur
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:41 pm
I have 3 teen boys that tell me everything. It's a fun activity. They tell me boys in yeshiva call it all the time from the yeshiva phone. They told me that kids tried asking inappropriate questions and it does not respond to that.
Do I like it? Not especially. But it's something a lot of boys do.
Fun fact, did you know you can call Zappos and ask them to Google anything for you and they do it? Yeah neither did I till my boys told me about it. There are lots of numbers boys call. Much more than we know.
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amother
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Yesterday at 11:42 pm
Who remembers TellMe back in the day? I almost feel like this is the 2025 version.
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chanatron1000
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Yesterday at 11:44 pm
amother OP wrote: | why not? If I were to hear that its not good for his ruchniyus I would tell him to not call it . Maybe he would listen,maybe he wouldnt . But at least I can tell him. He is a very good bochur |
If he doesn't give it inappropriate prompts, he's unlikely to get inappropriate responses. Do you trust him?
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Cheiny
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Today at 12:10 am
amother OP wrote: | Thank you for standing up for me. And Yes my son is very sheltered. He doesnt have acess to google except on a desktop in the living room with everyone walking past it. Very strong filtered internet. And hes only home once a month so usually doesnt have any internet access. |
Don’t be too sure he’s still very sheltered.
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amother
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Today at 12:15 am
Cheiny wrote: | Don’t be too sure he’s still very sheltered. |
wow thanks (sarcasm alert) . you dont always have to be a voice of doom and gloom
But that's exactly what Im worried about. He's in a great yeshiva, comes home once a month, has a close relationship with his rebbi, has great friends, spends all his time in the bais medrash even a ton of time over bain hazmanin. He has no time to not be sheltered! but thanks. Thats exactly why I am worrying . the yetzer hora is always looking to squeeze his way in. Is it going to be through calling chat gpt? thats what I want to know. I want toknow if this is a danger to his remaining sheltered and ehrlich. thanks
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amother
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Today at 12:16 am
amother Chartreuse wrote: | I have 3 teen boys that tell me everything. It's a fun activity. They tell me boys in yeshiva call it all the time from the yeshiva phone. They told me that kids tried asking inappropriate questions and it does not respond to that.
Do I like it? Not especially. But it's something a lot of boys do.
Fun fact, did you know you can call Zappos and ask them to Google anything for you and they do it? Yeah neither did I till my boys told me about it. There are lots of numbers boys call. Much more than we know. |
thanks, this is very useful info
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amother
Thistle
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Today at 2:38 am
amother OP wrote: | thanks, this is very useful info |
Honestly, before you make a big deal, I would call myself and ask inappropriate questions to see if it responds.
Because if you accuse him of something he is not doing and the tech he is using is incapable of, its really damaging towards your relationship.
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Mocha
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Today at 3:11 am
Why not just ask him what he finds interesting about chatGTP before you worry about it overly much? It could be really innocent or just a fun little break for him or it could be a way to get question answered that he didn't feel comfortable asking a real person.
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amother
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Today at 4:13 am
[quote="amother Thistle"]Honestly, before you make a big deal, I would call myself and ask inappropriate questions to see if it responds.
Because if you accuse him of something he is not doing and the tech he is using is incapable of, it’s really damaging towards your relationship.[/quote
Yes was gonna say the same, call it and play around with different questions and you’ll see for yourself.
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