S/o what’s your shabbos menu, and how much is mesorah

doodlesmom ↓

Yesterday at 9:18 am

Can you share your typical shabbos menu, and how much of it is mesorah/minhag/ Halacha (MMH) vs personal taste (PT)

I’ll start: Friday night:
Kiddush on wine-MMH
Challah MMH, sour dough challah PT
Tomato cucumber salad PT, Chrein, mayo, chummus all PT
Salmon fish MMH
Chicken soup, kneidel, lukshen MMH
Chic peas MMH
Meat and chicken MMH
4 types kugel- apple, potato, lukshen, tzvibel MMH
Farfel, carrots MMH
Rarely dessert- no one wants usually.
After seuda junk PT, apple MMH
Drinks-water, soda, grape juice PT

amother

Candycane

Yesterday at 9:42 am

doodlesmom wrote:

Wow, you make a ton of food. How many people are you? And does your MMH really require four types of kugel?

My menu is:
Kiddush MMH
Challah MMH
Chicken soup MMH or vegetable soup PT
Chicken MMH
Potato kugel MMH and PT
Hot vegetable ??
Sweet potatoes PT
Rice if guests PT
Fruit dessert PT

amother

Thistle

Yesterday at 9:50 am

Kiddush
Challah- bakery
Two dips-storebought
Gefilte fish and chrain
Two salads from this list: cabbage, pasta, potato, quinoa, eggplant, marinated veg
Fresh salad (by day)
Sliced avocado (by day)
Chicken soup
Kneidlach
Roasted Chicken and potatoes/rice
Potato kugel- Store-bought
Fruit- night dessert
Cholent (by day)

My minhag is not to be a shmatta for shabbos. I cook Thursday between dinner and kids' bedtime.

keym

Yesterday at 9:53 am

So by us, a lot is a combination of minhag and personal choice.

Kiddush is MMH but grape juice is PT
Hamotzie is MMH but homemade challa is PT
Gefilte fish MMH
Fresh salads PT
Chicken soup MMH (skip in the summer)
Each week chicken/schnitzel/grilled chicken/Meat/Turkey MMH but I choose which type
Winter- 2 kugels or sides, summer just 1 PT
Winter- 2 cooked veggies, summer just 1 PT
Dessert PT- cake, ice cream, mousse, sorbet whichever I choose

Day
Gefilte fish MMH
Salads
Cholent MMH (but sometimes I'll make potato kugel or yapchik)
Sometimes leftover chicken from Fri night, sometimes cold cuts

Last edited by keym on Tue, Jan 07 2025, 9:56 am; edited 1 time in total

amother

Lily

Yesterday at 9:54 am

Pretty regular-

Sourdough
Salmon , dips, cucumber salad, potato salad, roasted cauliflower drizzled with techina and Pom seeds
Chicken soup with noodles
Chicken or meat, potato kugel, some sort of lettuce salad, roasted veg
Dessert

Sourdough
Eggs, liver, salads, dips
Cholent, potato kugel, deli roll, lettuce salad
Dessert

simcha12plus

Yesterday at 10:00 am

the only things in my menu that are halacha/minhag
kiddush
lechem mishneh
fish
something fleshing
(basar vidagim)

something hot for shabbos day

everything else and it’s manifestations is extra.

amother

Bellflower

Yesterday at 10:04 am

whatever I feel like.

almost never challah. its too expensive to buy, and its a waste of calories. Almost always Trader Joe half baked

in the winter we eat soup: sometimes chicken Soup. sometimes lentil, pea, mushroom barley.

sometimes chicken marsala, sometimes beef stew, sometimes meatballs, sometimes chicken on the bone

3 sides

desssert: cake, brownie, cookies: whatever

0 mesorah. I never heard the word mesorah related to food till imamother

amother

Chestnut

Yesterday at 10:15 am

My in laws, who are very traditional serve the following weekly. (I come from a similar background but my parents have updated their menu slightly over the years)

Friday Night
Wine for kiddush
Challah (no dips)
Sweet cooked salmon/white fish + Gefilte + Chrein
Chicken Soup, lukshen, kneidel
Chicken on the bone, potato kugel, lukshen kugel, farfel & sweet carrots
Dessert is always grapes (for a separate bracha) and homemade apple compote

Our menu
Grape Juice or wine
Challah, Sourdough and a variety of dips & salads
Vegetable Salad
Baked Salmon
Chicken soup - lukshen if the kids request it
Main is always different but will consist of beef, vegetables, potato kugel and more
Dessert - always different

Shabbos Lunch

In-laws
Liquor for kiddush
Followed by cake or kugel
Challah
Same fish as friday night
Egg salad, sauteed liver, some vegs
Cholent with all the traditional fixings
Grapes and apple compote for dessert

Our menu:
Grape juice for kiddush
Challah, Sourdough & dips
Salad
Eggs, liver & kichel
Cholent with all the traditional fixings
Frozen dessert.

If we have company I’ll add some appetizers which is usually various different raw and cured fish

amother

Strawberry

Yesterday at 10:32 am

doodlesmom wrote:

Meat AND chicken is minhag, mesorah, halacha?

We have:

Kiddush - halacha
challah - halacha
gefilte fish - MM
salmon - PT
chrein, mayo, dips - PT
lechaim - wine or liqueuer - MM
chicken soup with lukshen - MM
roast chicken (usually) or meat - MM/PT
chicken from the soup - M
potato kugel - MM
farfel, sometimes - MM but really PT otherwise I'd serve it every week
hot vegetable or salad - PT
if I serve cucumber salad, that's "mesorah" from my mother's menu
dessert - sometimes compote, that can be categorized under MM; everything else is PT and I serve dessert every week - that's the main attraction of our seudos

↑ doodlesmom

Yesterday at 11:12 am

amother Candycane wrote:

First of all I don’t always make all the kugels, I buy too.
And when I do make, I make a large 9*13 and divide into several weeks and freeze.
And yes, my husband really wants to eat a sliver of each of these kugels for MMH.

amother

Dill ↓

Yesterday at 11:25 am

doodlesmom wrote:

Interesting. I remember learning that you make 4 kugels for Shabbos zachor.
The rest of the time we only have potato kugel, ferfel and tzimmes.

עמלק
ע-עפל
מ- מעיל
ל- לאקשן
ק- קארטאפל

amother

↑ Dill

Yesterday at 11:27 am

amother Poinsettia wrote:

Curious about the chickpeas minhag. Never heard of it until imamother.

We call it beblach. The men eat it Friday night by a Shalom Zucher.
Another term is Zucher bundlech.

life is fun

Yesterday at 11:44 am

I make
Fresh challe MMH
any fish, MMH
Salad PT
Chicken soup and lokshen MMH
Kneidlech if I have time PT
Chicken/meat MMH
Hot veg MMH
Starch (used to make farfel and kigel for yearsbec of MMH and stopped when I accepted that it doesnt get eaten)
Egg and onion MMH
Wraps sometimes PT
Tshulent MMH
Salad MMH
Desert only gets eaten when we have guests

There are (I think kabboloh) reasons why farfel, lokshen, butterbeans, meiren etc are served on fri night.

amother

Ultramarine ↓

Yesterday at 11:50 am

I do serve chicken soup and potato kugel as I like the traditional foods and that's generally the norm around me also.

But can someone please explain what is mesorah about it??

My only mesorah is to have fish and meat (that's not mesorah actually, it's in shulchan aruch) and then to have a cooked food by day, for which we have cholent.

I mean I would call it tradition, but not mesorah. I know that's the translation of mesorah, but really the word mesorah holds much more meaning of something important that's passed down in Yiddishkeit, and I don't understand how this fits the bill.

amother

Eggshell

Yesterday at 11:51 am

amother Bellflower wrote:

What bread from trader joes is half baked/par baked? I don't think I've seen it but would love to get.

amother

↑ Ultramarine

Yesterday at 11:51 am

amother Dill wrote:

We call it beblach. The men eat it Friday night by a Shalom Zucher.
Another term is Zucher bundlech.

Aren't bebelach the butterbeans? Chickpeas are arbes (I'm not chassidish but we have a liking for arbes also so we often serve it Friday night!)

amother

↑ Poinsettia

Yesterday at 12:09 pm

amother Dill wrote:

We call it beblach. The men eat it Friday night by a Shalom Zucher.
Another term is Zucher bundlech.

Thanks. I know about Shalom Zochers but why every Friday night?