Monsey schools | Imamother

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 9:54 am

amother OP wrote:

So here you see yourself the need of more such schools
With all repect to bdy, becuz they accept everyone they turned into the name they unfortunately got. ( that's contradictory itself, they are nice, accept everyone, yet the name scares off people) My friend with zero internet access won't send there , she's really afraid for shidduchim , she has nothing against that school but seeing the list of schools she applied recently I can get the feel thay bdy is open minded exposure for her.

Sorry, your friend is causing her own issues.
This is the problem with unaffiliated schools, people give them a bad name and no one wants to send there. It's not a bad school. People just decided they're bad. And if your friend is so scared to send there, then something is wrong with their chinuch at home and they want the school to make up for it and do the work that parents should be doing. The only person she should be mad at, is herself. And in every single school, even the most frum, will her children be exposed to things. She's kidding herself if she thinks otherwise. There are people with internet access in every school. It's inevitable nowadays.
Bais Rochel has plenty families with internet access btw.
OP, you are being hypocritical. Here you are bashing schools for not accepting, yet you're calling the schools that do accept garbage and problematic.

amother

↑ Tan ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:21 am

amother OP wrote:

So bottom line, you want the schools to continue being choosy so they shouldn’t become like bdy, right?
So why are you complaining that they’re choosy?

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:22 am

amother Tan wrote:

So bottom line, you want the schools to continue being choosy so they shouldn’t become like bdy, right?
So why are you complaining that they’re choosy?

As I said, hypocrisy.
Bashing the schools that don't accept, yet calling the schools that do accept bad names.
It's easy to blame schools and rabbanim, instead of people looking at themselves.

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:25 am

amother NeonPurple wrote:

I hear what your all saying no offence to anyone, but if I am redt a shidduch for my son with a girly from bdy I will very likely not be interested

Wow. Just wow. You should be interested in a girl that's the right fit for your son, regardless of what school she went to. Being in a specific school, doesn't make a girl more suitable for your son.

amother

↑ Tan ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:25 am

amother NeonPurple wrote:

I hear what your all saying no offence to anyone, but if I am redt a shidduch for my son with a girly from bdy I will very likely not be interested

That’s fine. But again, no offense, that other schools choose to remain strong about whom they accept.
So what are we even arguing about now?

Highstrung ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:31 am

amother NeonPurple wrote:

I hear what your all saying no offence to anyone, but if I am redt a shidduch for my son with a girly from bdy I will very likely not be interested

Wow! I know the most amazing girls that graduated from that school and I would love to have such girls as my DIL . Your loss. Really.

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:41 am

amother Tan wrote:

It’s really funny to see the clear contradiction.
Bottom line, people basically want THEY should be accepted easily, but no one else should dare get in.

Exactly. Unbelievable.
As I said, the problem is the people, not the schools or rabbanim.
I also see it time and again, that people from Brooklyn decided that certain schools in Monsey are modern garbage. My neighbors that moved claim that Bais Rochel and BSM are very modern. A new neighbor asked me where my kids go to school, when I answered, she said to me "really? That's such a modern school! You don't look like you belong there." I was floored. My girls school is anything but modern. Mainstream chassidish. No driving & all.

amother

↑ OP ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:50 am

amother Azure wrote:

Maybe it's a Brooklyn mentality , I don't live in Monsey amd I do know one relative of mine that goes to bdy and she's a gem of a girl, as I said all the time on this chat I admire bdy for Taking everyone in. This is the only place who takes in all of hashems kids disregardless.

amother

↑ Lily

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:52 am

amother OP wrote:

You don’t even live in monsey! And you think you understand the school system and mentality here ! Now I’m floored

amother

↑ Tan ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:52 am

amother Azure wrote:

Everybody defines modern differently.
Those neighbors must be very sheltered chassidish type.
Those 2 schools are a bit more yeshivish than strictly Chasidish so it doesn’t have that typical very Chasidish look. I’m not sure where you send but I can see your neighbor saying the same on sanz or vien just because they’re a bit more with it than viznitz or satmar.

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:55 am

amother OP wrote:

Well, then if Brooklyn wants to transplant themselves to Monsey, they need to leave their Brooklyn mentality in Brooklyn and move with an open mind and the knowledge that Monsey is not Brooklyn.

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 10:57 am

amother Tan wrote:

They're a typical Williamsburg family & I've seen this with other Williamsburg families as well.
I think Williamsburg in general thinks that Monsey is modern, unless you go to Viznitz, pupa, satmer. They also think Belz & Bais Trany are modern because they don't wear seams.....

amother

↑ Azure ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 11:05 am

amother OP wrote:

Well my grandparents and in laws live there and I have several siblings there

And so? This doesn't mean that you get to start a thread with the sole purpose of bashing monsey and Rabbanim, especially when you don't even begin to understand what the issue really is.

amother

↑ Gardenia ↓

Mon, May 01 2023, 11:07 am

[quote="amother Oxfordblue"]Exactly - it's the parents who are the problem. It's the parents who don't want to parent properly, so instead they have resorted to manipulate their kids environment to be only inclusive of a certain type. This way they don't have to provide a proper chinuch for their children. They don't need to provide insight to their actions, they don't need to teach their children why they chose a certain path. If everyone around them follows suit, their children don't know anything different. So they don't ask, and they don't need to be taught much.

That isn't something to be proud of, imo. If your version of yiddishkeit can't hold up to any exposure, then there's something very wrong with that. FTR, I'm not referring to extremes here. I'm referring to merely stepping one foot aside either way. If a family does one thing different than the other families, then the parents get hysterical and push that family out of the schools.

Is this is what the Torah is all about? Do we even think that this is what yiddishkeit calls for? That we can't even mingle with our own brethren who are only slightly different than you? If they wear slightly different clothes than you, or her parents have different backgrounds than you, does that mean the kids can't mingle with each other and be in the same school?

As I said earlier - I'm sure Hashem is mighty proud of this.[/quo

I agree that the most ehrlicha ppl are without schools. What Monsey is lacking is more schools. Nuetral good ehrlicha schools. Most chsaidishe mosdos schools are bursting by its seams just by taking their own crowd.