Tricking School into Accepting Unvaxxed Kids

amother

↑ Wine ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 4:44 pm

amother wrote:

Unless you had a valid medical exemption, that's despicable.

excuse me? if my child had an injury I will not vaccinate the rest of my kids and put them at risk. you have no idea what bought me to this point. I cant get a medical exemption for the rest of my kids, so I thank Hashem for leaving me with the option of a religious exemption thus my kids can get an education like all others.

amother

↑ Coffee ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 5:05 pm

amother wrote:

I had the complication myself before having kids so none were vaccinated and I don't plan on vaccinating. On here people insist I have no proof my vaccine caused my condition (to the person who asked up thread, yes, I've had several doctors agree that was the cause). I'm grateful for the religous exemption as well because I can't get a medical exemption for my child for MY reaction and it's not like my kid can spread hep b in preschool (and hopefully not ever...and if my child is at risk for spreading that I'd think the type of schools I send to would be in their full rights to expell my kid). Besides, I believe a medical exemption gives you an exemption from that shot not all the others. And no, I wont risk compromising my kid with a lifelong autoimmune disease to keep you and your baby unharmed. It's not a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

amother

↑ Blush ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 7:22 pm

amother wrote:

I suppose Hashem DOES give us the free will to make horrible decisions. Almost all of the "vaccine injury" claims are anecdotal and unproven. VAERS is full of stories and reports from worried parents - not true vaccine injury cases.

amother

↑ Forestgreen ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:20 pm

Ok, anyone who doesn't vaccinate is dumb, ditzy, flakey, reckless, crazy, abusive, idiotic, unscientific, ill informed, a liar, not fit to be a parent, not really religious, hypocritical, dangerous, sick at all times(obviously because they are constantly spreading diseases), arrogant, irrational, use google all the time, can't read, don't know the meaning of research, had imaginary vaccine injuries (of course, the vaccine couldn't have caused it!), don't care about newborns and old people, are scaredy cats, don't respect doctors, are fake, have cooties, and are selfish, oh so very selfish. Did I miss anything? Did you ever meet sombody like that? They don't vaccinate. I said it. Is everybody happy now? Now you can can carry on with your day.

goldrose ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:22 pm

fleetwood wrote:

How can anyone in their right mind who chooses not to vaccinate consider themselves as being entitled to a religious exemption?? What kind of b.s. is that???

In actuality, we should not need any exemption at all. People are free to do as they choose. So we are more than entitled to a religious exemption. And no, we don't put the rest of the world at risk with our choice. We aren't carriers of anything. All people are not born as carriers of diseases that are magically eliminated by getting vaccinated.

Good luck with your vaccines Smile

↑ MrsDash ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:31 pm

amother wrote:

Ok, anyone who doesn't vaccinate is dumb, ditzy, flakey, reckless, crazy, abusive, idiotic, unscientific, ill informed, a liar, not fit to be a parent, not really religious, hypocritical, dangerous, sick at all times(obviously because they are constantly spreading diseases), arrogant, irrational, use google all the time, can't read, don't know the meaning of research, had imaginary vaccine injuries (of course, the vaccine couldn't have caused it!), don't care about newborns and old people, are scaredy cats, are fake, have cooties, and are selfish, oh so very selfish. Did I miss anything? Did you ever meet sombody like that? They don't vaccinate. I said it. Is everybody happy now? Now you can can carry on with your day.

Hey, well amother Tangerine had the nerve to call me "unbalanced." Seriously though, how'd she know I have an inner ear infection and a cold, and experiencing extreme vertigo? shock

(No joke, I'm so dizzy, I'm not even sure how I'm posting anything right now.) Sick

amother

↑ Blush ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:32 pm

goldrose wrote:

I heard coconut oil prevents pertussis, so you're good. 👍🏼

amother

↑ Forestgreen ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:33 pm

MrsDash wrote:

Hey, well amother Tangerine had the nerve to call me "unbalanced." Seriously though, how'd she know I have an inner ear infection and a cold, and experiencing extreme vertigo? shock

(No joke, I'm so dizzy, I'm not even sure how I'm posting anything right now.) Sick

Reading this thread made me dizzy as well.

↑ dancingqueen

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 8:42 pm

amother wrote:

The point was that the flu vaccine is live and you can be contagious after getting it. So everyone that gets the shot can potentially infect the immunocompromised person. Less people would be contagious if there was no vaccine and he'd only have to worry about those that were actually sick.

The version of the virus in the vaccine is dead so no you can't get the flu from it. The mist has a very weakened version of the virus and would be hard to transmit and almost impossible to cause full blown flu. The mist is actually not going to be used this year you'll be happy to hear.

I agree with op that being tricky about this issue to the schools is shady. Greentigers parallel to having a tv was a good one.

amother

↑ Violet ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 9:28 pm

fleetwood wrote:

How can anyone in their right mind who chooses not to vaccinate consider themselves as being entitled to a religious exemption?? What kind of b.s. is that???

Hashem did not command is to vaccinate or not to. He commanded us to guard our health and then comes the belief of how and what the individual feels is the way for that body to guard its health

↑ LittleDucky ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 9:44 pm

amother wrote:

I highly doubt you are up to date but whatever. And as for using SN. I'm not sure you've noticed but anyone who DARE stand up to masses of bullying mothers on here have done so under amother. Do you wonder why? Let me think, we are fed up of being called "quacks" and idiots and therefore feel happier being anonymous. Just because you have the majority on your side it doesn't mean you get to bully everyone else and we are using amother for this reason. And times are changing. I used to think like you but TG I saw vaccines for what they are before it was too late..

So an anonymous online poster knows more about my medical history than I or my doctor. Or my titers. Care to share your super powers? It can save the healthcare system billions in unnecessary tests if doctors were granted your all-knowing Vision.

↑ goldrose ↓

Thu, Aug 25 2016, 9:46 pm

LittleDucky wrote:

I can think of some better ways to save them all those tests.

nursemomma ↓

Fri, Aug 26 2016, 12:27 am

amother wrote:

Totally legal. It is illegal to not accept a child solely because they are not vaxxed.

That is totally untrue. In some states, like NY, a school can choose to reject a religious exemption if they have a valid explanation of why they are doing so. And yes, it can be fought in court.
And btw, a child that is not UTD on vaccines, and does not have an exemption, is legally not allowed to be in school.

amother

↑ Forestgreen ↓

Fri, Aug 26 2016, 1:09 am

nursemomma wrote:

The school can challenge the sincerity of the religious exemption. They need to prove the religious belief is not a genuine one. If they can do that, the religious exemption won't be valid.

As of 2015 school year, the law is that a child needs to have one dose of each required vaccine to be allowed in school. The child is allowed to submit a catch up schedule to receive the remaining vaccinations. It's called being "in process." You can look it up.

↑ nursemomma

Fri, Aug 26 2016, 9:05 am

amother wrote:

Being "in process", you need to actually show proof that you have dr. appointments for the rest of the vaccines. And anyway, if you want a valid religious exemption, you cannot give your child just the first round so it doesn't exactly help anyone...

amother

White ↓

Fri, Aug 26 2016, 9:20 am

Why should schools have to accept children whose parents are openly violating Halacha? Yes, we may speak lashon hara but we are not proud of it... Venishmarten meod is a Halacha and following sound accepting medical advice including vaccinations is a must not to mention that there is also a halachic obligation to protect and not endanger others such as those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. Seriously.

amother

↑ White ↓

Fri, Aug 26 2016, 9:23 am

amother wrote:

Hashem did not command is to vaccinate or not to. He commanded us to guard our health and then comes the belief of how and what the individual feels is the way for that body to guard its health

He also did not tell us not to eat milk and meat together, but we may not. We are not chv tzedokim... We believe in Torah she baal peh and keep der rabanans and minhagim and chumros too....