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amother
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Post Today at 11:42 am
amother Whitewash wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned Pruzansky (Chemdas Hatorah). Not elitist at all, and the boys are on a range of levels. My son is from the pressure-cooker top level boys that learn during lunch and supper seder, but not every boy is that way at all. The revbeim and RY are extremely warm, there are lots of rules, but there isn't a whiff of elitism or shtoltz that I ever saw.


My son is also there and is doing very well, my son is very very smart KAH. Really nice boys. Definitely not elitist.
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amother
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Post Today at 11:59 am
amother Celeste wrote:
WHOA I never once blamed the yeshiva. I have another son in the same mesivta and if I felt it was the yeshivas fault I wouldn’t have sent him!

There are many different dynamics that can cause anxiety at 19 years old in a yeshiva setting right? Sometimes it’s the dynamics of the bochurim in the shiur, sometimes it’s burnout, sometimes it’s family related, sometimes it’s something so random that has nothing to do with anything. If we knew exactly what triggers it we would never have to deal with anxiety because we would be experts at preventing it.

One day, after suffering prob for a few months and trying to deal with it on his own, he opened up about what he was going thru. His RY and Rebbi were incredible at helping get him the best possible help.

I thought he was a yotzai min haklal so when another mother wrote that this happened to her friends son I felt very validated.

My son has never been under pressure in his life. Is he a perfectionist? Yes, but not in an unhealthy way. He always had success in learning, he was always on the top, he was not someone I would’ve ever anticipated would have anxiety.

There’s no blame game but the fact is that there is an enormous amount of peer pressure and expectations for a bochur to go beyond his kochos in this Mesivta. It can be a good thing. When a boy is really pushed it can bring out kochos he never knew he had.

At the same time there is enormous stress and pressure built in to this and I am personally aware of several boys who it took a toll on. Does this mean that the Mesivta is to blame and it had nothing to do with a predisposition to anxiety, depression or in the case of one boy eating disorder? Unlikely.

But the parents have to be aware that the environment is a high pressure high stress one and their child might not react to it in a positive way.
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amother
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Post Today at 12:12 pm
amother Zinnia wrote:
What does his Rebbi say?

I've seen good boys not academic very yeshivish be very happy in Krupenias and Brombergs.
Less yeshivish, I've heard Brus, Brody really build up a boy and encourage them to learn a little more a little more
I've also heard very nice things about Lazewniks.
Hirth? Pepper? Greys?

There are at least 71 mesivtas on that Lakewood list.
There really is a place for almost everyone.

Brus is for high academic.
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amother
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Post Today at 12:55 pm
amother Clear wrote:
Brus is for high academic.


Yeah was confused by that poster.
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amother
  Celeste


 

Post Today at 1:33 pm
amother Clear wrote:
Brus is for high academic.


Only recently…wasn’t always this way
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amother
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Post Today at 2:05 pm
amother Dimgray wrote:
There’s no blame game but the fact is that there is an enormous amount of peer pressure and expectations for a bochur to go beyond his kochos in this Mesivta. It can be a good thing. When a boy is really pushed it can bring out kochos he never knew he had.

At the same time there is enormous stress and pressure built in to this and I am personally aware of several boys who it took a toll on. Does this mean that the Mesivta is to blame and it had nothing to do with a predisposition to anxiety, depression or in the case of one boy eating disorder? Unlikely.

But the parents have to be aware that the environment is a high pressure high stress one and their child might not react to it in a positive way.


Dimgray, how do you know that you and celste are talking about the same place?
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amother
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Post Today at 2:45 pm
amother Celeste wrote:
Only recently…wasn’t always this way

For at least the past 4 years.
Those applying now, definitely.
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