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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 24 2024, 10:40 pm
amother Latte wrote:
Jumping this up cuz I just started the carnivore diet today and trying to get clarity. I felt full the whole day with no cravings for any snacks (huge snacker) and wanna understand-these proteins are the most nutritionally dense? Aren't vegetables healthier for you?


Veggies are not required for good health. You can get everything you need from animal based foods.
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 24 2024, 10:41 pm
amother Cornsilk wrote:
Many people do well eating carnivore for years. They feel sick when they add produce.
What vitamins and minerals can they not get from carnivore diet?
I know that vegetarians and vegans need b12 because they can only get that from animal proteins.

curious why that is?
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amother
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Post Tue, Dec 24 2024, 11:05 pm
amother Cognac wrote:
curious why that is?


Many plant foods contain antinutrients-compounds that make it hard for the body to absorb the nutrients in the plants. The plants have these antinutrients to keep away bugs and infections. And predators like humans who want to eat them.

https://www.doctorkiltz.com/plant-toxins/
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amother
Iris


 

Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 1:07 am
I have a question please: if one's cholesterol is moderately high and doc has suggested a statin, would a carnivore diet be considered healthy?
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  chanalesz  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 3:53 am
Congratulations on starting the diet.

It's so hard to get our heads around the reality of nutrition when we've been confused for the last 40 years.

If you go back beyond that you'll find that most people consider the healthiest foods to be animal products. The push for vegetables and fruits only came recently.

As a long time vegetarian I understand The difficulty with realizing that the most highly nutritious foods are not broccoli and dark green leafy vegetables and orange fruit.

If you want to go for the bang for the buck for your most micronutrients macronutrients essential protein and essential fat, go with liver! Sardines! Fatty red meat. These are the things that satiate our bodies needs.

You will find because you're eating more healthy fats from butter and meat You won't be hungry. And that's the amazing part. And if I do get hungry between meals I will eat a little butter or some beef cracklings or
Or chicken skins fried.

I've been a dirty carnivore, meaning animal based was very few vegetables or fruits for the last 7 months. I've done a lot a lot of research and I'm happy to share with you anything you want to discuss on this journey.
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  chanalesz




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 3:55 am
A carnivore diet will reduce the inflammation in your body. The new research that's been coming out over the last years shows very clearly that cholesterol is not a clear indicator of whether you are unhealthy or not. It's inflammation that causes heart disease. If you don't have inflammation in your body the cholesterol is all healthy.

What causes the inflammation? You're going to have it from seed oils and highly processed foods. So when you go on a carnivore diet you're taking out all of the unhealthy parts of your eating. You're eating whole foods from the source, nothing processed and the cholesterol in meats and fish and dairy are not going to cause heart disease. It's interesting that there was no heart disease known until the last 50 or 60 years. And then those years is when we changed our diet from being heavily animal produt based to highly processed and that's when heart disease and diabetes took over. So if you look at the history it's so obvious that the nutritional advice they've been giving us the last 30 or 40 years was just garbage.
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amother
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Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 7:24 am
Thanks for your help everyone. Just hard to believe that the world was created with fruits and vegetables and that's not what's healthy for us to eat.... our is it just cuz of the pesticides and other chemicals humans put on the food?
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amother
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Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 9:56 am
chanalesz wrote:

[...] So when you go on a carnivore diet you're taking out all of the unhealthy parts of your eating. You're eating whole foods from the source, nothing processed and the cholesterol in meats and fish and dairy are not going to cause heart disease. It's interesting that there was no heart disease known until the last 50 or 60 years. And then those years is when we changed our diet from being heavily animal produt based to highly processed and that's when heart disease and diabetes took over. So if you look at the history it's so obvious that the nutritional advice they've been giving us the last 30 or 40 years was just garbage.


All the unhealthy parts? Have you ever checked how meat and animal products are mass produced today? Ever looked into farm factories? How the animals you eat get raised with hormones, antibiotics and artificial feed?
Unless you eat only organic, grass fed etc, you eat a load of chemicals with every piece of meat.

The human diet for most of history was not heavily animal product based. It was grain based. The majority of the population, before industrialization, could hardly afford meat. Look at traditional Jewish dishes. Cholent: lots of beans, potatoes and grains with scraps of meat. In the shtetel, nobody could throw in whole hunks of meat. Chicken soup as well, boiled from bones and scraps for those who couldn't afford proper chicken. Calf fissel - shredded and jellied calf feet because they were the scraps that were affordable, in the absence of steaks for everyone. Gefillte fish: originally shredded fish scraps with breadcrumbs and eggs to fill up. Kugel - plant based. Babka - plant based. The majority of people, Jews and g0yim, were dirt poor. No one splurged on meat 200 years ago, with the exception of the few rich.

The carnivore diet is a modern fad diet, just like keto and paleo and vegan and all those.
Humans are built to be omnivores, eating mixed plant- and animal based food. Look at human teeth and the human gut and compare them to a wolf's or lion's. There's your answer.

Of course one can lose weight with any fad diet. But it is not long term healthy or balanced. Look into kidney damage and gout.
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Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 10:17 am
The carnivore diet was called the Eskimo diet about 100 years ago
In around 1920 there was a study to see if you can be healthy on an all meat diet
The answer was yes...if you eat from head to hoof
The organs and everything in the animal.
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giftedmom




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 11:55 am
Every person is different and genetics over centuries matter.
Ashkenazim are more sensitive to plant based foods, specifically gluten. But many are also lactose intolerant.
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amother
  Fern


 

Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 11:59 am
amother Latte wrote:
Thanks for your help everyone. Just hard to believe that the world was created with fruits and vegetables and that's not what's healthy for us to eat.... our is it just cuz of the pesticides and other chemicals humans put on the food?

It's more about poor gut health.
But yes, genetics matter and it's so individual and depends on what the person has going on healthwise at that particular time.
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amother
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Post Wed, Dec 25 2024, 2:50 pm
amother Iris wrote:
I have a question please: if one's cholesterol is moderately high and doc has suggested a statin, would a carnivore diet be considered healthy?


The whole idea that cholesterol is unhealthy is not so simple as that-though that is what they want us to believe. Every cell in our body has cholesterol. Our bodies MAKE it. Yes, when people have heart attacks there is often cholesterol present. But when it rains there are umbrellas. SO do umbrellas cause rain? The question is also does cholesterol cause heart attacks? Low cholesterol is also linked to stroke.

Look up Dr. Ovadia.
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