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amother
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 Yesterday at 9:01 pm
I've lived in the UK all my life, 40+ years, and don't know who's been diagnosed with Pandas. I've seen so many threads on here about it, and I find it so srange that it's so common in the US but unheard of here.
Can anyone shedlight on this?
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:03 pm
No one gets strep in England either.
But my niece was here from England and came down with strep.
So maybe people have pandas too, it's just not a "thing"?
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:07 pm
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Strep doesn’t “officially” exist in England. When I was in England and got strep the doctor insisted it want strep it was tonsillitis. Call it whatever you want, it’s the same thing. They also had this crazy thing called a “water infection” which they diagnosed every other sick person as having. England is a little backwards when it comes to medicine.
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renslet
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Yesterday at 9:33 pm
| amother Slateblue wrote: | | Strep doesn’t “officially” exist in England. When I was in England and got strep the doctor insisted it want strep it was tonsillitis. Call it whatever you want, it’s the same thing. They also had this crazy thing called a “water infection” which they diagnosed every other sick person as having. England is a little backwards when it comes to medicine. |
I grew up in England and got tonsillitis a lot as a kid. All my American cousins kept on saying that I probably had strep and it was misdiagnosed.
Then I moved to America and got strep. OMG it is a totally different illness, took over my entire body, nothing like tonsillitis.
England is very different than America when it comes to medicine (I haven't lived there for over 30 years so I have no idea if it's better or worse).
Interestingly I live now in south America and besides for imamother I have never met or heard of anyone who has pandas.
I'm wondering where else is it very common?
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chanatron1000
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Yesterday at 9:39 pm
| amother Slateblue wrote: | | Strep doesn’t “officially” exist in England. When I was in England and got strep the doctor insisted it want strep it was tonsillitis. Call it whatever you want, it’s the same thing. They also had this crazy thing called a “water infection” which they diagnosed every other sick person as having. England is a little backwards when it comes to medicine. |
When strep bacteria infect the tonsils, it's tonsillitis. If it spreads elsewhere, it's scarlet fever.
"Water infection" is a euphemism for UTI. UTIs are very common, and very often they cause symptoms that people don't realize they can cause.
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:43 pm
Oh my, I just googled this this morning cause I was wondering the same about strep!
As per reddit, it seems to be Americans willingness to do expensive tests on everyone who comes in with a sore throat so that they can then give expensive antibiotics...
Most also agree that when someone does get strep it is a totally different beast.
So I think for strep it's a combination of Americans calling every sore throat strep and England calling it all tonsillitis.
And pandas just leads on from that.
Maybe English antibiotics are stronger to begin with so less chance of pandas?
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giftedmom
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Yesterday at 9:48 pm
| renslet wrote: | I grew up in England and got tonsillitis a lot as a kid. All my American cousins kept on saying that I probably had strep and it was misdiagnosed.
Then I moved to America and got strep. OMG it is a totally different illness, took over my entire body, nothing like tonsillitis.
England is very different than America when it comes to medicine (I haven't lived there for over 30 years so I have no idea if it's better or worse).
Interestingly I live now in south America and besides for imamother I have never met or heard of anyone who has pandas.
I'm wondering where else is it very common? |
There are different strains of strept. Kids also react differently. My kids can all have strept at the same time, one can be acting crazy, the other can be having leg pain, and the third can have vomiting with fever.
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:49 pm
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Pandas is not so common in America. It takes on an outsized importance on imamother because a few anonymous posters bring it up very often on many threads. I think there’s a higher prevalence in frum communities take from that what you will.
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:56 pm
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I grew up and still live in Brooklyn and never heard of pandas prior to imamother. I actually have no idea what it is and I can’t be bothered googling.
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amother
Papayawhip
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Yesterday at 9:57 pm
| amother Mint wrote: | Oh my, I just googled this this morning cause I was wondering the same about strep!
As per reddit, it seems to be Americans willingness to do expensive tests on everyone who comes in with a sore throat so that they can then give expensive antibiotics...
Most also agree that when someone does get strep it is a totally different beast.
So I think for strep it's a combination of Americans calling every sore throat strep and England calling it all tonsillitis.
And pandas just leads on from that.
Maybe English antibiotics are stronger to begin with so less chance of pandas? |
A strep test is not expensive.
At the gemach, a test is $3 (a drop more than cost price!)
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amother
Olive
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Yesterday at 9:57 pm
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It’s not common in America. It’s common on here where 5 people shove it on everyone on every thread as the solution to all problems.
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amother
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Yesterday at 9:58 pm
| renslet wrote: | I grew up in England and got tonsillitis a lot as a kid. All my American cousins kept on saying that I probably had strep and it was misdiagnosed.
Then I moved to America and got strep. OMG it is a totally different illness, took over my entire body, nothing like tonsillitis.
England is very different than America when it comes to medicine (I haven't lived there for over 30 years so I have no idea if it's better or worse).
Interestingly I live now in south America and besides for imamother I have never met or heard of anyone who has pandas.
I'm wondering where else is it very common? |
An adult who is sick with strep feels AWFUL.
A kid usually has milder symptoms.
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amother
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Yesterday at 10:15 pm
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PANDAS is very uncommon in the US. It's very uncommon in general.
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amother
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Yesterday at 10:24 pm
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I wish pandas was more common. Seems like it’s what my son currently has. (And no I haven’t posted about this). This was my suspicion based on the little I know but I spoke to my former pediatrician (former because we moved) and took ds to the allergist/immunologist. They are both suspecting it is pandas. However they both clearly told me that it is controversial / difficult to treat. Again, I wish it was more common so that I could have a proper treatment plan.
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amother
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Yesterday at 10:27 pm
| amother RosePink wrote: | | I wish pandas was more common. Seems like it’s what my son currently has. (And no I haven’t posted about this). This was my suspicion based on the little I know but I spoke to my former pediatrician (former because we moved) and took ds to the allergist/immunologist. They are both suspecting it is pandas. However they both clearly told me that it is controversial / difficult to treat. Again, I wish it was more common so that I could have a proper treatment plan. | Are you in the UK?
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amother
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Yesterday at 10:34 pm
When my relative was comatose and dying infectious disease department diagnosed patient with strep bacteria as cause of problem.
USA .
Unfortunately people do go undiagnosed with streptococcus
It is only strep throat that us frequently tested for
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amother
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Yesterday at 10:40 pm
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In the UK food coloring is banned in some food products. In the U.S. it’s a no biggie. My kids were getting strep once a year and stomach viruses. Since I changed things around in the house bh noones been sick for a few years
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flyakite
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Yesterday at 10:53 pm
| amother IndianRed wrote: | | In the UK food coloring is banned in some food products. In the U.S. it’s a no biggie. My kids were getting strep once a year and stomach viruses. Since I changed things around in the house bh noones been sick for a few years |
So RFK is onto something.
https://matzav.com/fact-check-.....oops/
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giftedmom
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Yesterday at 10:54 pm
| amother IndianRed wrote: | | In the UK food coloring is banned in some food products. In the U.S. it’s a no biggie. My kids were getting strep once a year and stomach viruses. Since I changed things around in the house bh noones been sick for a few years |
Once a year would be great lol mine get it like 10 times a year minimum. But then once they hit 11-12 it’s gone
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