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  singleagain  




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 8:50 am
wiki wrote:
So far, all of my kids are big readers. Although for some this started in Pre1A and in others it took until 2nd grade to develop.

Factors that contributed:
--Each kid got a quality reading lamp attached to their bed at the start of first grade, and permission to stay up past bedtime only if they were reading a book.
--For the oldest, who learned to read during the pandemic, I spent about an hour a day on reading sessions until she was devouring chapter books herself. For each kid, we'd bribed them to finish their first few chapter books, hoping to get them hooked.
--We are library addicts, and have been since they were babies. We get the kids a variety of books, fiction but also plenty of other types (books about animals, geography, airplanes, gems, history, biography, poetry books, puzzle books, whatever), and they've all found their own particular interests.
--DH and I are constantly reading, dozens of books a year. So, part of this is nurture, and part of this is surely genetics.

But I think the reading lamp was the small thing that made the biggest difference!


You reminded me of this meme

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Fox




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 9:16 am
I'm with Amother Cyan on this. DH and I are both readers, and we did everything suggested and then some. My kids are now 25-31, and some are readers; some aren't.

But here's the thing I didn't realize as a younger mother: Yes, reading is obviously beneficial, but it's not the best predictor of intelligence, tenaciousness, or success. Sure, if someone literally has difficulty reading because of a learning disability or unusually low intelligence, it will be a big challenge. But over that threshold, it's just a hobby.

It also leads to an interesting skew on Imamother. Women who don't enjoy reading/writing generally don't enjoy Imamother that much. I've spoken to several very accomplished women over the years who've said things like, "I have to read and respond to stuff for work. I'm certainly not doing that for pleasure!"

It's great to give kids tools of any kind, and reading is a tool for leisure, school, and parnossah. But we readers tend to be a little snobbish about it, and I've learned that not everyone has to have that relationship with books.
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tichellady




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 9:22 am
Didn’t read through the whole thread but I know a number of people who didn’t enjoy reading until they had reading therapy. Reading was too challenging for them to be enjoyable.
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amother
  Moonstone


 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 11:53 am
Fox wrote:
I'm with Amother Cyan on this. DH and I are both readers, and we did everything suggested and then some. My kids are now 25-31, and some are readers; some aren't.

But here's the thing I didn't realize as a younger mother: Yes, reading is obviously beneficial, but it's not the best predictor of intelligence, tenaciousness, or success. Sure, if someone literally has difficulty reading because of a learning disability or unusually low intelligence, it will be a big challenge. But over that threshold, it's just a hobby.

It also leads to an interesting skew on Imamother. Women who don't enjoy reading/writing generally don't enjoy Imamother that much. I've spoken to several very accomplished women over the years who've said things like, "I have to read and respond to stuff for work. I'm certainly not doing that for pleasure!"

It's great to give kids tools of any kind, and reading is a tool for leisure, school, and parnossah. But we readers tend to be a little snobbish about it, and I've learned that not everyone has to have that relationship with books.


Absolutely 100%, this is a great point. I know very smart adults and kids who are not readers. I mentioned that all of my kids are major bookworms. Yet despite all being bookworms, some easily do well in school and others have some challenges.

All of them are terrible spellers, too, fwiw. I've had well meaning teachers suggest I encourage reading more for some particular kids, so as to improve their spelling. Teachers were shocked to hear that dc was a bookworm because, we all know that reading makes you a good speller. Well not always.

Honestly, I don't see lots of value in some of their reading preferences.
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amother
Poinsettia


 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 12:37 pm
I’m a big reader and my children are not.
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amother
  Brickred


 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 1:35 pm
I'm sitting at the kitchen table with my 10 year old as she does homework. She's a big reader and I have trouble getting her enough books that are both age appropriate and at her reading level. I asked her what advice she would give parents who want to encourage reading in older kids. She suggested making it more fun than just reading a book. Together we came up with doing a monthly family book club with an end of the month discussion over yummy snacks or a literary version of bingo where everyone in the family gets a bingo board filled with various book genres (mystery, biography, science fiction, history, etc.) and has a set amount of time to complete a line to get a prize. We figure that if you get kids reading for a goal, they might come to read for fun. It could also be that they would enjoy reading a particular genre that they have just never been exposed to yet.
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amother
Powderblue


 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 1:48 pm
I didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if this is repetitious.

Your kids should see you reading, talking about books, getting excited about books.

Take them to the library for activities as well as book-choosing, and connect them with the children's librarian. Some libraries have lots of activities--puzzles, coloring, games, etc, so even kids who aren't naturally big readers will get accustomed to the idea that the library is one of the places you go regularly to enjoy yourself.

Participate in all of the library and book store free programs for motivating readers, many of which involve prizes!

On vacation, we always used to find a used book store and let the kids pick a few books to buy as vacation souvenirs. It was really to reinforce that reading and books are a great part of our leisure time.

Have the kids write to authors--they will often get replies!
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1346




 
 
    
 

Post Wed, Dec 04 2024, 8:25 pm
agreed with everything written.
Parents should regard reading as a pleasure, not as a task
especially when the kids start reading it should be pressure free and fun.
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amother
Candycane


 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 8:46 am
I don't think my mother ever read to me as a child and I barely had books, yet I was a huge bookworm as a child.
Now as an adult my weekday reading is Imamother and magazines on Shabbos.
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  #BestBubby




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 8:49 am
amother Moonstone wrote:
Absolutely 100%, this is a great point. I know very smart adults and kids who are not readers. I mentioned that all of my kids are major bookworms. Yet despite all being bookworms, some easily do well in school and others have some challenges.

All of them are terrible spellers, too, fwiw. I've had well meaning teachers suggest I encourage reading more for some particular kids, so as to improve their spelling. Teachers were shocked to hear that dc was a bookworm because, we all know that reading makes you a good speller. Well not always.

Honestly, I don't see lots of value in some of their reading preferences.


I am also a bookworm and was a terrible speller.

Bookworms read so fast, they don't notice spelling

People who read slowly are often good spellers
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amother
  Azalea


 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 11:24 am
amother OP wrote:
I'd love some recommendations for them and me. They are ages 8-13. Secular books are OK for us.


There's a great book called 'Stone Soup' which my pupils LOVE! There are lots of diferent versions which you'll find if you Google it. Not sure how kosher they all are, but I'll come back soon and post the one I use in school.
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  singleagain  




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 12:19 pm
amother Azalea wrote:
There's a great book called 'Stone Soup' which my pupils LOVE! There are lots of diferent versions which you'll find if you Google it. Not sure how kosher they all are, but I'll come back soon and post the one I use in school.


OMG I love that book.

This was the cover I grew up with

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amother
  OP


 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 12:24 pm
singleagain wrote:
OMG I love that book.

This was the cover I grew up with


Thanks for posting the picture. I reserved something at the library for both me and them. I told them about it, they grumbled a bit about it but I am hoping they appreciate the time with me when I read to them.
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Hashem_Yaazor




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 1:52 pm
#BestBubby wrote:
I am also a bookworm and was a terrible speller.

Bookworms read so fast, they don't notice spelling

People who read slowly are often good spellers

Not my experience.

I think the difference is between those better at learning reading from phonics vs memorizing sight words. The latter is better at spelling I think because they see the word in their head vs sounding out and English spelling has so many oddities. I have bookworms that are excellent spellers and they scored better on reading assessments that used real words vs gibberish based on phonics.
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amother
  Gold


 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 2:22 pm
OP, I missed your earlier post where you asked for options for your kids, 8-13. Can you tell us a little more about them? I read very different books to my fun-loving, silly son (Wayside school!) than I ever did to my serious, studious one. Or than I did to my impulsive, danger-loving son. Or to my daughter who likes anything pink and fluffy with unicorns on it...or to my other daughter who likes to talk about why people behave like they do...
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  singleagain




 
 
    
 

Post Thu, Dec 05 2024, 2:23 pm
amother Gold wrote:
OP, I missed your earlier post where you asked for options for your kids, 8-13. Can you tell us a little more about them? I read very different books to my fun-loving, silly son (Wayside school!) than I ever did to my serious, studious one. Or than I did to my impulsive, danger-loving son. Or to my daughter who likes anything pink and fluffy with unicorns on it...or to my other daughter who likes to talk about why people behave like they do...


Oh my God wayside school! That is another great childhood memory book
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