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Yesterday at 10:43 pm
Cheiny wrote: | What happened in the store? All the clothes came off? Highly doubtful… but Again, even if that was so, then why was she leisurely keeping the baby outside for so long while she loaded the bags?
All these scenarios didn’t seem to be the case at all… |
No. Someone said maybe the baby had a diaper blowout, you said then the mom should have gone home. I said maybe the blowout happened in the store.
Again, you don’t know the full story, you only know the one snippet that you saw.
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Yesterday at 10:47 pm
I’m with u op!!
I’m completely shocked by so many of the responses on here. Taking a baby out like that in 20 degrees is abusive! Period!
And it’s so sad to see how many other mothers on here think it’s ok!
And even if the baby did have a blow out or took off their clothing, u put the clothing back on! I don’t care how hard it is! And if the baby has a blowout, u go straight home, u don’t go shopping!
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Yesterday at 10:49 pm
amother Springgreen wrote: | I’m with u op!!
I’m completely shocked by so many of the responses on here. Taking a baby out like that in 20 degrees is abusive! Period!
And it’s so sad to see how many other mothers on here think it’s ok!
And even if the baby did have a blow out or took off their clothing, u put the clothing back on! I don’t care how hard it is! And if the baby has a blowout, u go straight home, u don’t go shopping! |
And there it is.
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Yesterday at 10:51 pm
amother Fuchsia wrote: | I mean, if you live in Florida 40 degrees is extremely cold. It’s all relative. But as someone who lives somewhere that’s routinely below zero Fahrenheit and has seen wind chills in the -50s F, I can assure you, being outside in 20 degree weather for 5-10 minutes is in no way dangerous. Is it uncomfortable? Sure. But the child would have been just fine when she got into the car with a heater and a warm blanket. |
Who said dangerous? It is freezing and more than uncomfortable.
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Yesterday at 11:06 pm
amother Fern wrote: | Who said dangerous? It is freezing and more than uncomfortable. |
I would certainly hope the level of drama in this thread is reserved for children who are actually in danger.
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Yesterday at 11:34 pm
amother Brunette wrote: | It’s not so bad. I think you are overreacting. Some people don’t bundle up their children for a car ride. The car is warm and the jackets cause problems with the seatbelts. The mother probably took the baby out for a few minutes to run back and forth to the grocery and load up the car. Going out in the cold for short amounts of time is not just okay, but it’s actually healthy especially for children. Look up what children in Finland do. They are some of the healthiest children around. A little bit of cold weather is nothing to fear. If the baby wasn’t red or crying or seemed like she or he was suffering, she was just fine. |
Baby not crying doesn't mean baby was fine. There were times when I was shocked to feel my young dc's or baby's hands to check if they were cold, and discover they were ice. And then pick up baby and baby was freezing. Sometimes when it's very cold, baby doesn't have the effort or energy to cry.
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Yesterday at 11:49 pm
amother Mintgreen wrote: | She could have put the baby in first and the loaded the groceries so baby isn’t out in the cold. |
Agreed. People also seem to be missing the age of the baby. 3 months is very young, they're not so hardy then.
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Yesterday at 11:52 pm
Cheiny wrote: | I guess I should’ve expected all the justifications… but if you had seen what I saw, you’d know none of the above were likely or even possible.
And even if the child had removed every piece of clothing, and opened her jacket, or had a diaper blowout, it would still be beyond irresponsible to take the child out for a long shopping trip and keep the unclothed baby outside for that long while she talked on the phone and leisurely loaded the many bags into the car… everything I saw was just wrong.
As far as your claim that 20 degree weather isn’t cold, I’d challenge you to stand outside with no gloves on for 10 minutes and then picture the baby with no gloves, nothing on their legs or feet, and an open jacket, and then let us know if you maintain your position.
As I said, my hands were freezing through my gloves… that poor child.. |
I'm disturbed by all the comments saying you should have "missed your business." This is how child abuse in the frum world is excused.
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Yesterday at 11:57 pm
I went out with my 16 month old today and she was not wearing socks. I hope no one thought I was dysfunctional she does not know how to keep it on for more than 5 minutes
But even after our shopping trip and sitting in the shopping cart, her feet were not cold!
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Today at 12:02 am
amother Hunter wrote: | I went out with my 16 month old today and she was not wearing socks. I hope no one thought I was dysfunctional she does not know how to keep it on for more than 5 minutes
But even after our shopping trip and sitting in the shopping cart, her feet were not cold! |
Were you wearing socks?
According to the American Board of Pediatrics, baby should wear same or one more layer than parent.
How do you know how cold her body was?
Underdressing babies is a pet peeve of mine.
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Today at 12:17 am
amother Peony wrote: | Were you wearing socks?
According to the American Board of Pediatrics, baby should wear same or one more layer than parent.
How do you know how cold her body was?
Underdressing babies is a pet peeve of mine. |
I tried to put them on she just keeps pulling them off
She was warmly dressed in a winter coat zippered up to her chin
It was also around 35 degrees not that cold
I wasn't worried
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Today at 12:58 am
Another bothersome scenario I encounter a lot, babies bundled up to their chin, wrapped in blanket hidden behind a stroller windshield plastic cover, in a well heated store.
Mothers, please remember to unzip your baby even if their sleeping, those infants are sweating and ch"v suffocating!
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