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Mamuka

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 6:51 pm

got a very expensive machine. The warranty would not cover if immersed in water. Do I need to toivel?

watergirl

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:00 pm

Per every LOR I’ve asked, and various hachgacha agencies - if it has a cord, no tevilah.

hodeez

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:03 pm

We hold if it plugs into the wall it's not necessary to tovel

Hashem_Yaazor

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:05 pm

watergirl wrote:

Per every LOR I’ve asked, and various hachgacha agencies - if it has a cord, no tevilah.

And we hold differently 😀

If there's no digital display, we have not had an issue with regular and drying out for several days before using it.

Please ask your rav what to do...

mizle10 ↓

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:39 pm

Hashem_Yaazor wrote:

And we hold differently 😀

If there's no digital display, we have not had an issue with regular and drying out for several days before using it.

Please ask your rav what to do...

I broke a $1000 nespreso machine without a digital display by toiveling it Sad

Molly Weasley ↓

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:50 pm

There’s an opinion that if something plugs into the wall, it doesn’t need to be toveled, but that’s a Daas yachid, the Yeshuas Yakov.

Most people disagree with this, though some, including Rav Shlomo Zalman, use it as a tzruf when there are other considerations involved.

Would you be able to share the link to the item you bought? It may not need tevilah for a different reason.

Just to clarify, there is no carte blanche “heter” to avoid tevilah just because an item might break. However, if the item is truly needed, it’s definitely something to discuss with your Rav, as it could be an important factor to consider.

Bethany85 ↓

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 7:57 pm

DH asked our rav. He gave 2 solutions:
1. Sell a portion of the item to a non Jew.
2. Have an appliance repair person dismantle it and reassemble it.

↑ Molly Weasley

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 8:01 pm

Bethany85 wrote:

DH asked our rav. He gave 2 solutions:
1. Sell a portion of the item to a non Jew.
2. Have an appliance repair person dismantle it and reassemble it.

Did he specify if the repair person has to be Jewish?

↑ Bethany85

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 8:03 pm

Molly Weasley wrote:

Did he specify if the repair person has to be Jewish?

Pretty Sure that’s the case.

new oldie

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 9:11 pm

Bethany85 wrote:

DH asked our rav. He gave 2 solutions:
1. Sell a portion of the item to a non Jew.
2. Have an appliance repair person dismantle it and reassemble it.

We typically toivel everything, cord and all. But for something that can’t, our Rav told us to do what Bethany85 said.

↑ mizle10

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 9:20 pm

Bethany85 wrote:

Pretty Sure that’s the case.

Right, because then it's considered as if a Jew made it and therefor it doesn't require tevillah

B'Syata D'Shmya

Sat, Nov 30 2024, 9:52 pm

Firstly, ask your Rav.
If you dont have one, find one and make him your Rav.
You can find ideas from this site:
https://www.imamother.com/foru.....esult

I know many pple who do the "sell a part to nonJew thing", no biggie.
They ask a nonjewish friend who may not understand but usually say, sure, why not...
Dont dip the machine into water.

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