Mesivta witty vs brus

care4u ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 7:29 am

amother DarkViolet wrote:

Anyone know?

Different personalities in rosh yeshiva.
Witty takes more boys & then divides into two classes 2nd seder. He will take more of a spectrum of scholastic capabilities than brus.

Best way to get an answer is to ask ur eighth grade Rebbe or parents that are currently in the mesivtas.

Both wonderful places with great boys.

amother

Celeste ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 8:22 am

My son is in ninth grade in Brus and so far he's happy and doing well. He was never the type of kid to be chazzering and learning in his spare time but now he is learning 2 hours over shabbos/motzei shabbos without my prompting. Yes, it's because he's scared he'll get in trouble otherwise, but he still does it without much grumbling.

They have English that you can opt into. It seems to not be the highest level, but this is Lakewood so you can't really expect better. I think they get a GED or diploma at the end but I'm not positive.

It's funny that a poster wrote that Witty accepts a greater range of boys, because when we were applying last year we were told that Witty is out of my son's league (and he is very smart BH and has gotten 100s so far on his bechinos in Brus). I can't really answer anything about Witty though because we don't send there.

You can always apply everywhere and then decide. But you should have some idea of where you want to go because some places will accept you on the spot at your farher and expect an answer.

It's early to be worrying about this though, you have another few months.

Good luck!

amother

↑ DarkViolet ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 8:52 am

Not worrying.
Starting research.
It seems that some mesivtas know who they're taking even before official farhers.
The best way to get information is from people who are currently sending to the mesivtas.
It takes time to find out information.

↑ care4u ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 9:22 am

amother Celeste wrote:

It's funny that a poster wrote that Witty accepts a greater range of boys, because when we were applying last year we were told that Witty is out of my son's league (and he is very smart BH and has gotten 100s so far on his bechinos in Brus). I can't really answer anything about Witty though because we don't send there.

Only because I knew a few boys who are there- but I heard the families daven in his shul...maybe that's why?

↑ care4u ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 9:25 am

amother DarkViolet wrote:

Most elementary schools are very on top of it & are able to guide you towards the right school.

Either way, both mesivtas in general have a very very high level of learning.

Re English, only Weinbergers has an English program that is serious (not just Ged learning)

amother

↑ Celeste ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 9:59 am

amother DarkViolet wrote:

The mesivtas don't always know beforehand but often do. You need to have your son's menahel and rebbe vouch for you etc. They know how it works and will help you if you ask them.

amother

↑ Celeste ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:00 am

care4u wrote:

Heard from a boy in Weinbergers that the English program has such a great name but it's not actually that serious. And if you think about it, they still need to cater to boys who went to Lakewood elementary schools, so their English isn't up to par to start with.

amother

↑ Celeste ↓

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:01 am

amother Gardenia wrote:

Somehow the boys can still get diplomas that can be used for fafsa and blt programs.

This is coming across as very snide. If you have something nasty to say don't hide behind amother. The boys get GEDs which is recognized as a high school diploma substitute so they are able to go to college if they want.

amother

↑ Gardenia

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 10:08 am

amother Celeste wrote:

I’m not being snide at all. My boys went through the system.

One with a basic English program that I thought was a joke for 2 years. But he still got a diploma he was able to use for fafsa and a beis medrish that is accredited.

My second son is in a mesivta with no English. He took a 2 year ged prep class bec I thought the knowledge was important but never the test. I’m hoping his yeshiva will give a diploma if he needs it one day. But none of the parents I spoke to every requested it so I don’t know. But I’m hoping they will.

Accredited mesivtas do require a ged or diploma. In order to get a ged you have to take a bunch of tests. Not many boys actually complete them and pass.

I thought maybe I can assure the fear of mothers sending to no or little English. I know I was very nervous being from oot and being afraid I was limiting my children.

I’m not sure why you had to attack me and assume I had neferias intentions when I was just trying to be helpful and comforting.

amother

↑ Celeste

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:00 am

amother Gardenia wrote:

Ok thank you for explaining. Since you can't hear tone when reading it's hard to know what the person meant, and you only wrote one short sentence so it was hard to parse your intention.
I'm sorry for attacking you and I appreciate your explanation and reassurance.

↑ care4u

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 11:03 am

amother Celeste wrote:

That's definitely true especially since as much as a school can create a good English program it's up to the parents and the boys to make sure that they take a seriously and beyond that you can't do anything.

I've had a son in the program and we took it seriously and he learned a lot and did very well. You can take out of anything as much as you want but at least the program is there for those that care about getting a proper diploma.

amother

↑ DarkViolet

Thu, Nov 21 2024, 5:23 pm

Can you explainwhat you mean when he learns so long over shabbos/motzai shabbos cuz he's scared he'll get into trouble?
Is there a lot of fear there or negative reinforcement?

amother Celeste wrote: