Stigma of Thanksgiving in frum world

ittsamother

Yesterday at 11:59 pm

ProudMommie wrote:

What a stupidity to change a Hebrew word that means nation to gentile..

Because the most common use of it on this site is the second, not the first. You can get around it by writing g-oy

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DrMom

Yesterday at 11:59 pm

ProudMommie wrote:

It's not a jewish holiday.
We have no kesher with pilgrims/anti semites.
BH we have enough of our own holidays.
We should be busy with jewish life because we are [gentile] kadosh.

The original Pilgrims actually had great admiration for Judaism.

And their actions helped establish a country which took in millions of Jews and enabled them to thrive.

Seems pretty ungrateful to be so opposed to celebrating a holiday which achnowledges and gives thanks for their success.

kenz

Today at 1:11 am

Marathon wrote:

Thanksgiving is a pagan holiday
4th of July is just celebrating that we live in a land of chesed

This. It’s basic American history that Thanksgiving started off as a pagan holiday and many Rabbanim hold it’s problematic to “celebrate” on a day with those roots. Understandably Yidden are not doing it for those reasons but the issue is the source. I grew up in a school that did give off because most parents had off from work and it became a family day but they were always careful to make sure we knew we weren’t celebrating together with the non-Jews.

Molly Weasley

Today at 1:37 am

Rav Moshe basically permits people who have a family "tradition" of celebrating Thanksgiving to have a family dinner and share a non-turkey meal together once every few years, for the sake of Shalom.

Rav Avigdor Miller says its completely forbidden, even without the turkey.

(A BBQ on July 4th is very different from having turkey on Thanksgiving. We have barbecues many times throughout the summer, whenever the weather is nice. We just happen to have one on July 4th as well.

Most people only eat turkey on Thanksgiving, and that's where the "Chukas HaGoy" part comes in..)

essie14

Today at 1:49 am

We live in Israel and we still celebrate Thanksgiving! (Friday night, though. Not Thursday) Very Happy

I make a turkey breast because it's hard to find whole turkey here. But we love the traditional foods. We do Thanksgiving themed shabbat a few times a year.

camp123

Today at 2:31 am

We have chanyuka to thank Hashem
When you start being religious about having to eat a turkey on Thanksgiving imo you are also undermining what you do on religious Jewish Yom tovim.

singleagain ↓

Today at 3:19 am

ProudMommie wrote:

What a stupidity to change a Hebrew word that means nation to gentile..

Unfortunately the word is often used in a derogatory way. And for that reason it is okay if the Imamother filter.

↑ singleagain

Today at 3:20 am

Mommyg8 wrote:

Yes Rabbi Veiner had a shiur about this topic. He quoted R Moshe Feinstein that the turkey for Thansgiving is avoda zara.

Why is Turkey considered avoda zara?

corolla

Today at 5:57 am

Molly Weasley wrote:

We are makpid NOT to have a BBQ on 4th of July Very Happy

Not saying that others shouldn't, but this is our minhag. There are 364 other days to do it.

Iymnok

Today at 6:02 am

We always had a Thanksgiving dinner for my grandma.
After she died we would have the turkey, which was on a great sale, Friday night. Since we had days off, we'd sometimes go to out cousins, a 3-4 hr drive.
We'd have pumpkin pie throughout the fall since it's yummy!