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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:27 pm
Or is it something you live with all your life? Please explain Asd to me in simple words.
- Mom of the previous thread whose child needs to be evaluated for asd.
Thank you
(Also, every person responds to trauma differently. Something about Cerebrospinal fluid in the brain. If you know more about it, please chime in! )
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:30 pm
Wondering the same. My son has classic asd symptoms. Don't know if I should accept and make peace with the diagnosis for life or is it really just all from trauma? Which I'm aware he has too...
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:32 pm
If you mean trauma as in brain injury that can effect emotional stability/personality.
I don't think a traumatic experience can cause add.
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:33 pm
My son is autistic and I can’t fathom what kind of trauma he could have had. He had the best early attachment from all my kids. I was home with him and nursed him for a long time. Lots of skin to skin, holding him, etc. Everything was perfect. We did testing and were told it’s something genetic that happened at conception. So I don’t think it’s always from trauma.
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:36 pm
Asd is not caused by trauma
However severe trauma can look very much like asd
I know more than one case where ppl believed it was ASD when in fact once they did the trauma work , the asf symptoms disappeared
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#BestBubby
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:36 pm
The experts say add can never be cured.
But there are many many parents whose child lost their asd diagnosis.
Some used biological treatments such as gluten free/dairy free, low sugar, all natural diet
And supplements
And standard therapy such as ABA or Floortime.
The main thing is to get a therapist highly recommend by other parents as getting results.
Many therapists are poorly trained and ineffective.
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:44 pm
#BestBubby wrote: | If you mean trauma as in brain injury that can effect emotional stability/personality.
I don't think a traumatic experience can cause add. |
His birth was very traumatic, and I discussed it with a natural healing professional who said that I went through something in that pregnancy that’s causing the trouble. He needed to make a correction on that part more than the actual birth. I said I don’t recall anything happening but still he said it’s not relevant for me to know since he worked on it.
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:45 pm
amother Orchid wrote: | Asd is not caused by trauma
However severe trauma can look very much like asd
I know more than one case where ppl believed it was ASD when in fact once they did the trauma work , the asf symptoms disappeared |
By trauma work you mean trauma therapy? Or what?
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:47 pm
amother Wandflower wrote: | My son is autistic and I can’t fathom what kind of trauma he could have had. He had the best early attachment from all my kids. I was home with him and nursed him for a long time. Lots of skin to skin, holding him, etc. Everything was perfect. We did testing and were told it’s something genetic that happened at conception. So I don’t think it’s always from trauma. |
Could be while you were expecting. For example Not being excited for a new pregnancy can sometimes have effect on child
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Ivory
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 9:49 pm
DS is ASD officially. The spectrum is large, he’s verbal and social but does exhibit certain behaviors. I’ve seen improvement with improving his diet and ABA therapies
Many have improved ASD symptoms or lessened them with diet changes and lifestyle changes
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:05 pm
amother OP wrote: | Could be while you were expecting. For example Not being excited for a new pregnancy can sometimes have effect on child |
Please don't say things like that. Besides being completely false, they make mothers feel guilty about things they can't change. And they're false.
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:12 pm
amother OP wrote: | By trauma work you mean trauma therapy? Or what? |
Trauma work
But also being in a safe environment for over a year
But the people who I saw it by had severe childhood trauma
I have never heard of this happening from a traumatic birth
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Electricblue
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:15 pm
amother OP wrote: | Could be while you were expecting. For example Not being excited for a new pregnancy can sometimes have effect on child |
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:17 pm
amother OP wrote: | By trauma work you mean trauma therapy? Or what? |
Asd look alike can be caused by very severe obvious trauma. Not by single incident trauma and not by mild childhood trauma. It requires a thoroughly disrupted attachment system.
Also, it looks slightly different.
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:26 pm
amother OP wrote: | His birth was very traumatic, and I discussed it with a natural healing professional who said that I went through something in that pregnancy that’s causing the trouble. He needed to make a correction on that part more than the actual birth. I said I don’t recall anything happening but still he said it’s not relevant for me to know since he worked on it. |
This is total baloney!!
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headband22
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:39 pm
What kind of diet helps with ASD
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amother
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:41 pm
I didn't notice if you mentioned your child's age or level of functioning.
My understanding is that, diagnostically, ASD is a collection of symptoms. That means that a person can be diagnosed with it whether those symptoms are a result of trauma, brain damage, genes, etc. A person can "lose" their diagnosis, either because it wasn't true innate ASD and the root problem was addressed, OR because they've learned to mask their symptoms well enough. In the latter case, they're not "cured", they're just following the "rules".
There is a correlation between autism and trauma, particularly because people with ASD might be bullied for being different, might not be suspicious enough of a dangerous person...
I'm autistic. I approach the world differently. Sometimes that makes things difficult. In other ways, I'm at an advantage. I see ASD as something to live with in the best way I can, not something I'd want to cure. (Okay, so sometimes I think it would be nice if certain things came easier... but no one has everything easy.)
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LovesHashem
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Thu, Nov 07 2024, 11:47 pm
amother Burlywood wrote: | I didn't notice if you mentioned your child's age or level of functioning.
My understanding is that, diagnostically, ASD is a collection of symptoms. That means that a person can be diagnosed with it whether those symptoms are a result of trauma, brain damage, genes, etc. A person can "lose" their diagnosis, either because it wasn't true innate ASD and the root problem was addressed, OR because they've learned to mask their symptoms well enough. In the latter case, they're not "cured", they're just following the "rules".
There is a correlation between autism and trauma, particularly because people with ASD might be bullied for being different, might not be suspicious enough of a dangerous person...
I'm autistic. I approach the world differently. Sometimes that makes things difficult. In other ways, I'm at an advantage. I see ASD as something to live with in the best way I can, not something I'd want to cure. (Okay, so sometimes I think it would be nice if certain things came easier... but no one has everything easy.) |
You expressed this perfectly!
I think with the right help and tools ASD doesn't go away per say, but you can be more functional and happier and reach your potential.
When you learn to understand the way your brain is wired and start working with it and not against it.
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amother
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Fri, Nov 08 2024, 12:07 am
LovesHashem wrote: | You expressed this perfectly!
I think with the right help and tools ASD doesn't go away per say, but you can be more functional and happier and reach your potential.
When you learn to understand the way your brain is wired and start working with it and not against it. |
Makes sense to me. And this is what I originally thought. Thank you!
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amother
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Fri, Nov 08 2024, 12:12 am
Didn't read other responses.
There is a reason ppl with ASD appear deeply traumatized. From a biological perspective, asd and ptsd are very similar. They are both wired for danger. Both are caused by a nervous system stuck in fight-flight. The body doesn't differentiate between emotional and physical stressors. Both of them turn on the cell danger response and chronic stressors, be they emotional or physical, will cause a sustained streas response aka sympathetic dominance. Biomedical treatments that help for trauma can also help for asd. They shift the nervous system away from fight-flight into rest-digest-socialize mode aka parasympathetic nervous system. There are children recovering from asd using Biomedical treatments all the time. There are doctors who specialize in treating the medical causes of autism.
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