S/o Pretty AND skinny or....

amother

OP ↓

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 2:35 pm

Would you trade pretty and skinny for wealth, intelligence, talent, success or popularity? Or keep pretty and skinny and never have any of those things?
I know ,we would want it all, but if you had to choose between being pretty and skinny or being especially wealthy or incredibly intelligent or super talented or very popular, would you trade?

amother

Magnolia

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 2:40 pm

Pretty and skinny vs one of those things?

Definitely pretty and skinny.

Pretty and skinny vs being poor, unintelligent, unsuccessful, AND have barely any friends? Then not pretty and skinny.

amother

PlumPink

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 2:43 pm

It's so silly to ask what you would want. It's not like you can get it anyway.
Everyone's physical makeup is determined by Hashem as part of our package in our way to serve him.
Yes, height and weight is from Hashem as well as beauty.
We have to use what we have and maximize it in our service to Hashem.
The chsam sofer's daughter (correct me if not) was exceptionally pretty and she asked that her beauty should be taken away because she was getting too much male unwanted attention.

amother

↑ Canary

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 2:44 pm

amother PlumPink wrote:

Sure it's silly but it's just for fun. It's not meant to be a serious question.

kitov

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 3:55 pm

Imagine if Hashem gave us an application for life, specifying what we want for ourselves, our dh, kids, finances, looks, shidduchim and all. We would always second guess ourselves.

But guess what, we actually did choose. Before our neshama entered the world, we were given choices. So we all got what we asked for.

amother

Maize

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 4:22 pm

Stupid question IMHO. Of what good would it be to be good-looking (presumably in your own opinion, since apparently you have no friends) and have no other desirable aspects to your life?

imaima ↓

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:25 pm

amother OP wrote:

The truth is that many pretty and skinny people are more successful because of their looks or charm. That’s just how it works. They are also more confident.
So this doesn’t really make sense to me…

amother

Stone

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 10:28 pm

I'm pretty, skinny, wealthy, intelligent, confident... I would trade it all for a simple boring life of health, safety, and normalcy.

But since I can't trade, I do enjoy what I have. Honestly, I think wealthy is probably the most helpful part of my package.

B'Syata D'Shmya ↓

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 11:11 pm

imaima wrote:

Not pretty or skinny, here, Fairly confident, as I dont need pretty and skinny to be successful. I rely on Hashem and He has not let me down. Ever.
If a person is successful because of their looks, then what good is their success? Its תלוי בדבר.
Charm is different, its not dependent on pretty or skinny...its in the eye of the beholder.

I guess "successful" is different for different people.

amother

↑ OP

Thu, Nov 07 2024, 11:17 pm

amother Stone wrote:

I appreciate the honesty. somethings ARE overrated...

I also thought wealth would be worth trading for. You truly are intelligent.

And of course you are right, we cant trade. Although people who aren't 'pretty or skinny' can work on both.
Health and safety, however, are from Shamayim, And I daven you, at least, are granted both.
Normalcy, only you can give yourself. I hope you are successful.

↑ imaima ↓

Fri, Nov 08 2024, 2:33 am

B'Syata D'Shmya wrote:

Did I ever claim 100% correlation?
Did I also say that you need to be universally accepted pretty? It’s enough if the beholder likes you and gives you more opportunities because of it.
Why the need to prove me wrong?

There are tons of plain intelligent people who are overlooked because they are outshined by pretty AND intelligent.
And often we don’t realize that others consider us pretty and give us more chances than we would have had if we didn’t look a certain way. So maybe you are pretty for others and you don’t realize it

↑ B'Syata D'Shmya ↓

Fri, Nov 08 2024, 4:08 am

imaima wrote:

It’s enough if the beholder likes you and gives you more opportunities because of it.
Why the need to prove me wrong?

There are tons of plain intelligent people who are overlooked because they are outshined by pretty AND intelligent.
And often we don’t realize that others consider us pretty and give us more chances than we would have had if we didn’t look a certain way. So maybe you are pretty for others and you don’t realize it

Opportunities because of being pretty and skinny?
Worthy people overlooked because they are outshined by the pretty?

You have been brainwashed by the Olam Hafuch.

No one has anything if Hashem didnt give it to them. Not their looks or size, or their intelligence. Hashem...and Hashem only.

↑ imaima

Fri, Nov 08 2024, 5:41 am

B'Syata D'Shmya wrote:

Look up „pretty privilege“

↑ B'Syata D'Shmya

Fri, Nov 08 2024, 7:38 am

imaima wrote:

Look up „pretty privilege“

Not a Torah concept....I've already wrote it's an Olam Hafuch concept, and not in the spirit of tznius....